Re: Food Rants

Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Mon, 5 Mar 2018 20:26:32 +0000



    On 05/03/18 20:04, Mary B wrote:

    
      Did you read my document?  It does exactly what
        you're suggesting to address your somments at the end of your
        email and is why it has the format it does rather than the
        simpler one you should have in your previous email. I wrote it
        10 years ago after the Dublin meeting where we were stuck at a
        country golf resort 
    
    
    How typical. The moldier, posher and more star studded a place is,
    the worse it is in terms of food safety and regulatory compliance.

    
      and the only lunch option was a buffer of random
        food, whereas I had done my homework over the weekend and found
        that the hotel restaurants could accommodate restrictions only
        to find that on Monday lunch, you could NOT order from a menu. 
        I've updated the document a few times. So, yes, I have tried and
        tried and tried - the fact that I couldn't get staff to arrange
        food so veggies were covered with cookie crumbs is a fantastic
        of the level of failure.    You can find these same discussions
        over and over in the archives.   You are not bringing up any new
        points.   We have made some progress, but again where this topic
        ended up in terms of priority in the meeting venue document
        means that I have failed as considering this issue can be traded
        against having a place for people to meet socially - i.e., if a
        venue has a nice, large bar with cheap beer that can easily be
        traded against whether there is food that can be obtained at the
        venue, etc.   
        

        The fact that we have had successful meetings where the
          food requirements happened to be met quite well means your
          point around having to compromise isn't really valid.  We've
          done it well by chance before, so if we plan we should easily
          be able to do it properly.   

        
    It is nor realistic to expect that you can somehow have safe food in
    the regions where half of the dishes are cooked with peanuts, the
    other half with nuts, all of it smothered in a sauce made out of
    milk and ciapatti flour and seasoned with sesame (each of these can
    actually kill people who are allergic). The same goes for the
    regions where everything is boiled in the same pot with the noodles,
    then fried up in the same pan or deep fryer. With our without batter
    and nuts in the mix.

    
    I do not think that it is a realistic ask to ban these locations as
    you are looking at 50%+ of the Earth (by population). So frankly, if
    the location is such that there is high chance of going home in a
    casket one has to participate remotely.

    
    A.

    
        Regards,
        Mary. 

          
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