Hi, yes - this +1 Lars On 2018-3-5, at 20:20, Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > The fact that we are seeing controversy about whether taking pictures of others is a right demonstrates that the policy is necessary: quite clearly, whether or not this is perceived as harassment varies according to different participants in this discussion. > > The phrase "shoving cameras in peoples' faces" is somewhat problematic in that you might not actually perceive this behavior as "shoving a camera" in your face if it was done to you. When it is done, it's not like the lens is two inches from your nose. It might well be five feet from your nose. It might also be a telephoto lens a few yards away. Long lenses produce better portraits, after all. > > The point is that something is happening which some participants, for good reason, find so bothersome that the lack of a policy forbidding it is a significant part of their calculus in deciding to come. Other participants, e.g. you, don't seem to even be able to understand this as a problem. That is why the policy is needed. It is literally because you don't see it as a problem that it needs to be stated as a policy. > > If all IETF participants just naturally understood that they should be considerate when taking pictures of other participants, we wouldn't need a policy.
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