This is a very disheartening discussion from an Internet Service Provider and Enterprise perspective.
The IETF believes that the migration to IPV6 is critical to the future of the Internet. (Yes?)
The IETF drives the standards and the resulting products that are available for deployment to solve Internet problems in the migration to IPV6.
The IETF is concerned that utilizing these technologies (even with an opt out V4 network) may impede its work at a conference.
The IETF is apprehensive that attendees may not have the skill/will to troubleshoot, work around or fix any resulting issues that could result.
The IETF concludes that these technologies are not ready for its own production use (“we have all the IPV4 space we need”) and need to be deployed by others (who do not have enough IPV4 space) to address gaps in the standards and resulting implementations.
The IETF believes the conferences are to do the NEW work of the IETF, not to be impacted by the quality of work it has already done.
I think you will find that neither Service Providers nor Enterprises believe that their business is deploying IPV6 technologies.
What should these organizations take away from this discussion?
Is the message really; Deploy IPV6 and risk your business?
John
On 7/30/17, 6:21 AM, "ietf on behalf of Tim Chown" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on behalf of tjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 30 Jul 2017, at 11:07, Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> On Jul 29, 2017, at 9:33 PM, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>> lucy, ietf noc ticket goddess, tried to copy all 99 nat64 tickets into a
>> bunch, see
>
> I read this as 99 tickets, but it’s only six. So not really a very substantial data set. :(
6 tickets from how many users?
It’s great that Randy has pulled together the nat64-realted tickets.
Could we also run a short survey on the attendees list after the event, using the IETF survey monkey or whatever the meeting survey uses, on nat64 experiences for this who used it?
We could then for example use the NOC and survey data to keep a running I-D of issues that’s updated after each meeting?
Tim