> So my question to you was really "what gets better for me if I use > that SSID?" If the answer is "things get worse" then yes you will > continue to have issues attracting people to try it, and so long as > that remains the answer it'll never be ready to be the default. why not start with what we have traditionally done with new protocols and implementations, the nat64 aficionados conduct interop testing with an i-d reporting the result? for example, in the s'pore hackathon, have a group with an assortment of devices and a wide assortment of applications actually testing nat64. maybe kickstart with the nat64 tickets from {seoul,chicago,praha} if no other ideas come to mind. randy