On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Dave CROCKER wrote: > Maastricht suffered an impressive variety of problems. Worse, some of those > problems have become a recurring pattern. As examples, we have had a > significant number of venues in recent years that were distant from major > transportation hubs and/or were distant from "local" resources such as the > usual array of hotels, restaurants, markets and the like. Rewinding eleven: Hiroshima Stockholm San Francisco Minneapolis Dublin Philadelphia Vancouver Chicago Prague San Diego Montreal Of these I can name only Dublin as falling into the category which you class as a pattern. I am not saying Maastricht or Dublin did not have problems, I am saying the claim that there is a significant pattern here is over-stating it. Please keep in mind that we have several "non-negotiable" requirements for venue selection. The first is actually availability of venue on our dates since our dates are FIXED. Proposals for changing the meeting model won't necessarily change that reality. Ole _______________________________________________ Ietf mailing list Ietf@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf