Re: Status of this memo

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On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 5:55 PM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Keith,

On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 03:03:20PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 4/27/21 2:55 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote:
>
> > I agree with Andy below but just to be clear, WG draft has a formal
> > standing as a starting point for work -- they are a draft over which
> > the WG has taken control.
>
> emphatically disagree, and I believe that's a particularly harmful
> concept to promote.

Could you elaborate more on how your position relates to the BCP 25
description of "Document Editor"?  §6.3 of RFC 2418 has:

   Most IETF working groups focus their efforts on a document, or set of
   documents, that capture the results of the group's work.  A working
   group generally designates a person or persons to serve as the Editor
   for a particular document.  The Document Editor is responsible for
   ensuring that the contents of the document accurately reflect the
   decisions that have been made by the working group.

Let us say we have a square peg and a round hole. There are several options:

Change the shape of the peg
Change the shape of the hole
Increase the size of the hole
Decrease the size of the peg.

As editor, I have on several occasions iterated through multiple cycles of similar options. Each time a new draft was published, a different set of people read it and realized it was now their ox being gored. 

The document is a tool to help arrive at consensus so it cannot represent consensus except at the end. 

On occasion, I have written up a proposed change knowing full well that the people who proposed it aren't going to like the result at all. 

This sort of situation rarely comes up in 1.0 work. But when you are trying to make a fix to legacy infrastructures....
 

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