On 16/04/2021 02:17, scott wrote:
Maybe one thing that could be done is to have a set of things that
newbies can do to participate that are likely to be taken very
favorably. What author doesn't like somebody who's gone through your
ID with a fine tooth comb for nits, bad grammar, unclear text, etc and
especially from fresh eyes from the perspective of a potential
implementer, for example. Everybody would win in that situation. Their
naivety is a huge benefit.
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"What author doesn't like somebody who's gone through your ID with a
fine tooth comb for nits, bad grammar, unclear text, etc and especially
from fresh eyes from the perspective of a potential
implementer, for example."
This is what I tried when I first came over from NANOG after reading
'ops folks come on over to IETF' emails there. Not everyone wants
that. I was told 'that's what the RFC editor is for. Do you have any
valuable input?' Paraphrasing... Since then I have been a lurker just
because I want to learn.
It varies a lot with the Working Group. Yes, there are some closed
shops, usually those producing one or a limited number of I-D, who
resent anyone else daring to comment on their perfect product, even if
the person concerned has been around a few decades and authored many RFC.
There are others, usually engaged in mass production, who thank you for
pointing out that 'maybe' and 'perform' are being misused.
Rather than diving in with comments, ask if they are wanted. e-mail the
WG Chair - and that is an important first lesson, what is a Chair, what
do they do and what do they not do uin the IETF, and again, it varies
widely, and ask the Chair, such as I have been looking through
draft-ietf and notice some unfamiliar usage, would you like me to post
it to which the answer may be a link to Github at which point abandon
that WG and try another- or not, depending on your background:-)
How do you join any group anywhere that has been around a while, is
task-oriented and has created its own norms which you have no way of
finding out about? Again the fact that the e-mail history is accessible
is a great help, but only people know of it.
HTH
Tom Petch
scott
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