Re: rawhide net install image doesn't work with bios partitions

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On Mon, 27 May 2019 10:00:02 -0600
Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> That you get GRUB from installation media tells me your computer is
> presenting itself as having UEFI firmware, because on computers with
> BIOS firmware the installation media will use isolinux as the
> bootloader, not GRUB. If the firmware is UEFI, GPT partitioning is
> required (same as Windows) by the installer. It's been this way since
> forever, at least Fedora 18.

Yes, the firmware is UEFI.  But, the hard drives have been in use with
older hardware that wasn't.  My understanding is that it is difficult
and chancy to convert from legacy partitions to GPT partitioning.  Is
that false?

I thought that I had done a direct install for Fedora 21.  It was the
last time that the BFO option worked for direct install from the net
instead of using media.  It worked great at that point, but has been
non-responsive for several versions of Fedora since, or I would be
using it still.  But that was a long time ago, so I could be wrong.  I
have been just replicating the existing Fedora, and then enabling
rawhide to upgrade.  I suppose I could do that again, but I like a
fresh install every so often to get rid of cruft.

> Most UEFI firmware today have a "legacy" option or "uefi
> enable/disable" option in firmware setup, that will cause a faux-BIOS
> to be presented instead of UEFI. These days I'm not sure why you'd
> want to use that, unless you have specific known UEFI firmware bugs
> that aren't going to be fixed by the manufacturer and also don't have
> work arounds in either GRUB or the kernel. So I don't really
> understand why this system has an MBR partitioning scheme in the first
> place (there are older hardware in the Windows 7 era that were UEFI
> but shipped with the compatibility support module enabled to present
> BIOS).

See above.  The firmware must have that because when I first used this
MB it allowed me to re-use the old drives with MBR from the failed MB.

> Anyway, you need to be looking in firmware setup for this. Probably. I
> have seen some computers with in-firmware boot manager that shows a
> USB boot option with a UEFI prefix suggesting they will only boot in
> UEFI mode from USB if you choose that option; and still another option
> for the same USB device but without a UEFI prefix (or with a legacy
> prefix) and that enables the CSM for that boot - it's not a persistent
> setting. It's kindof a sneaky user interface convention.

I'll look at this.  I suspect it will be present and will provide a
workaround.  At some point I'll have to bite the bullet and switch.
I'll probably do it when I purchase a new hard drive.  I'm using cd-rom
in a dvd drive now, but if I have to I can switch to USB.

> Off topic:
> Also, FYI, your mail server configuration asks other mail servers to
> consider your forwarded emails as suspicious, so gmail users likely
> don't see your emails at all. I found your post in spam. I don't know
> for sure the proper way to fix it, but a discussion just happened on
> devel@ about it. I'm inclined to think this is a Fedora mail server
> misconfiguration and the poster's mail server's dmarc header should be
> stripped and replaced with its own (i.e. verify the posted email is
> valid per dmarc/dkim, then strip that header; and resign the message
> for the list), but ya whatever.
> 
> Authentication-Results: mx.google.com;
>        arc=fail (body hash mismatch);
>        spf=pass (google.com: domain of
> test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx designates 209.132.181.2 as
> permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>        dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=QUARANTINE)
> header.from=zoho.com

I just use a free mail provider, zoho.com.  I don't set the
parameters.  I saw in an email message on one of the Fedora lists that
zoho.com had been compromised, and was considered untrusworthy.  That
is probably why it is marked as such.  Maybe I should switch to using
my ISP.  I used to use a paid email provider, but they suffered an
intrusion that put them offline briefly, and I have been leery of
continuing with them.

Thanks for your help.
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