On Mon, 2019-05-27 at 10:00 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:20 AM stan <upaitag@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:20:08 -0700 > > Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > If you are booting in UEFI mode, then yes, they are required. If you > > > don't want that, you need to boot in legacy or CSM mode. > > > > Thanks for the tip. That enables me to see the problem, but not how to > > correct it. The boot stanza for the iso uses linuxefi and initrdefi. > > I can edit the stanza just like a regular boot, but if I try to change > > those to linux16 or initrd16, the default on my system, they are not > > found. I tried linux too, just in case it had been made generic, but no > > go. My experience was that no matter how I tried to bypass the efi > > boot, I did not succeed. I looked at the rest of the suboptions > > available, and there wasn't one obvious to my eye that implied an > > override of the efi boot. > > > > Do you have further insight that will enable me to bypass this hurdle? > > That you get GRUB from installation media tells me your computer is > presenting itself as having UEFI firmware, because on computers with > BIOS firmware the installation media will use isolinux as the > bootloader, not GRUB. If the firmware is UEFI, GPT partitioning is > required (same as Windows) by the installer. It's been this way since > forever, at least Fedora 18. Right. Nothing has changed in the media here AFAIK. If you boot from the firmware to the Fedora install media in a UEFI-native way, the installer will boot UEFI-native and require you to do a UEFI-native install. If you boot from the firmware to the Fedora install media in a BIOS-native way, the installer will boot BIOS-native and require you to do a BIOS-native install. This isn't something we (Fedora) control, it's between you and your system's firmware. Either you aren't writing your install media and/or booting them quite the same as you did before, or your firmware's configuration has changed somehow from preferring BIOS-native boot to UEFI-native boot. You should be able to find a way to do a BIOS-native boot in the firmware UI somewhere, though. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx