On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 8:20 AM stan <upaitag@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Sun, 26 May 2019 23:20:08 -0700 > Samuel Sieb <samuel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > If you are booting in UEFI mode, then yes, they are required. If you > > don't want that, you need to boot in legacy or CSM mode. > > Thanks for the tip. That enables me to see the problem, but not how to > correct it. The boot stanza for the iso uses linuxefi and initrdefi. > I can edit the stanza just like a regular boot, but if I try to change > those to linux16 or initrd16, the default on my system, they are not > found. I tried linux too, just in case it had been made generic, but no > go. My experience was that no matter how I tried to bypass the efi > boot, I did not succeed. I looked at the rest of the suboptions > available, and there wasn't one obvious to my eye that implied an > override of the efi boot. > > Do you have further insight that will enable me to bypass this hurdle? That you get GRUB from installation media tells me your computer is presenting itself as having UEFI firmware, because on computers with BIOS firmware the installation media will use isolinux as the bootloader, not GRUB. If the firmware is UEFI, GPT partitioning is required (same as Windows) by the installer. It's been this way since forever, at least Fedora 18. Most UEFI firmware today have a "legacy" option or "uefi enable/disable" option in firmware setup, that will cause a faux-BIOS to be presented instead of UEFI. These days I'm not sure why you'd want to use that, unless you have specific known UEFI firmware bugs that aren't going to be fixed by the manufacturer and also don't have work arounds in either GRUB or the kernel. So I don't really understand why this system has an MBR partitioning scheme in the first place (there are older hardware in the Windows 7 era that were UEFI but shipped with the compatibility support module enabled to present BIOS). Anyway, you need to be looking in firmware setup for this. Probably. I have seen some computers with in-firmware boot manager that shows a USB boot option with a UEFI prefix suggesting they will only boot in UEFI mode from USB if you choose that option; and still another option for the same USB device but without a UEFI prefix (or with a legacy prefix) and that enables the CSM for that boot - it's not a persistent setting. It's kindof a sneaky user interface convention. Off topic: Also, FYI, your mail server configuration asks other mail servers to consider your forwarded emails as suspicious, so gmail users likely don't see your emails at all. I found your post in spam. I don't know for sure the proper way to fix it, but a discussion just happened on devel@ about it. I'm inclined to think this is a Fedora mail server misconfiguration and the poster's mail server's dmarc header should be stripped and replaced with its own (i.e. verify the posted email is valid per dmarc/dkim, then strip that header; and resign the message for the list), but ya whatever. Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; arc=fail (body hash mismatch); spf=pass (google.com: domain of test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx designates 209.132.181.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=test-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; dmarc=fail (p=REJECT sp=REJECT dis=QUARANTINE) header.from=zoho.com -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx