On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:59 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le jeudi 13 mars 2008 à 19:29 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit : > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 19:22 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > Le jeudi 13 mars 2008 à 19:08 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit : > > > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 18:47 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > > > > Le jeudi 13 mars 2008 à 17:47 +0100, Ralf Corsepius a écrit : > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 09:41 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > > > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 01:25 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > > > > > >> One of the problems I have with "ban packages with unicode names" is > > > > > > > >> that it doesn't consider what to do when a package name upstream is > > > > > > > >> non-ASCii. > > > > > > > > Transliterate/translate them to ASCII. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a proposal I am strongly -1 to. > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO, you are making fuzz about nothing. For most languages such native > > > > > > transliterations exist. > > > > > > > > > > IMHO you are woefully unaware of the fuzziness of a transliteration > > > > > process. > > > > Manual transliteration? > > > > > > There's no such thing as a standard automated transliteration, > > That's why I am talking about manual transliteration - I do not want to > > automated transliteration nor automated translation. > > > > That's why I am talking about using > > ... > > Name: ecollier-fonts > > This one people do care about, that's the project name not a technical > string. Wrong - This is the technical string, a package is identified by. Fedora has the liberty and need to impose restrictions on it. That said, renaming écollier-fonts to ecollier-fonts is not any different from requiring certain prefixes on certain packages (perl-xxx) or other arbitrary renaming conventions (xxx-devel) or disallow blanks and special characters ($<>[]()\n\r\b\t) from package names. > > Source0: écollier-fonts > > This one no one care about, its a technical name Wrong again: This is a file on a remote server, whose name is out of Fedora's control. > > and (optionally) to add > > Provides: écollier-fonts = %version-%release > > This is a technical alias. Yes. > It would be fine as technical workaround, > it's not a substitute to the primary name a project feels an affect to. Nope: It's a string provided as legacy to tools which can use it. It's only visible inside of rpm and to tools applying metadata. > In other words you reversed priorities to fit your needs, but the > reversing is not innocuous, and you will offend people. > > At one time Suse felt it smart to use 8:3 package filenames to cater to > DOS mirrors. Their decision was right at the time they did so. > You seem to follow the same logic. I can't deny the feeling you haven't understood anything I said :/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
