Many valid/interesting points being made. Most of them sound, reasonably, like developer-/maintainer-centric issues. Question: Is a primary goal of Fedora distro (JAVA sig, etc) to 'service' its (java app) users? If so, what's the current understanding of a user-driven ProductRequirements spec'n of JAVA apps 'round here? Who's included in "users"? Developers? End-users? etc. Perhaps I've missed it ... I know as a representative of my end-users I've got plenty of opinions about our JAVA env. Also as a representative of my org's JAVA devs. But as a developer/maintainer OF java/apps @ Fedora, not much at all; the "solid OpenJDK & Maven" approach is good enuf here. Mostly. And, if that^ is not a primary goal, then back to the discussion at hand. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
