For what it's worth...
I use the OpenJDK on Fedora and I'm very happy with it. I do not use or
need eclipse, or as fast as I can tell, any of the other tooling (e.g.
packaged gradle and other things). My main uses are playing games that
depend on Java and are packaged and built outside the Fedora toolchain.
(One is minecraft, the other is called Megamek, a simulator for the
tabletop war game Classic BattleTech. minecraft...doesn't need to be
built and megamek builds with gradle, which it knows how to download.)
It hurts a bit to see posts like what were at the top of this thread -
clearly Fabio and others have invested many hours into making a great
experience for people, and I hate to see people feel that effort is
wasted or that they're burning out.
I would like to thank those who have contributed to the Fedora java
stack. Maybe my case is unusual? It meets my needs and I expect it
will continue to.
Thanks,
Marty
On 9/27/21 09:03, PGNet Dev wrote:
Many valid/interesting points being made. Most of them sound,
reasonably, like developer-/maintainer-centric issues.
Question: Is a primary goal of Fedora distro (JAVA sig, etc) to
'service' its (java app) users?
If so, what's the current understanding of a user-driven
ProductRequirements spec'n of JAVA apps 'round here?
Who's included in "users"? Developers? End-users? etc.
Perhaps I've missed it ...
I know as a representative of my end-users I've got plenty of opinions
about our JAVA env. Also as a representative of my org's JAVA devs.
But as a developer/maintainer OF java/apps @ Fedora, not much at all;
the "solid OpenJDK & Maven" approach is good enuf here. Mostly.
And, if that^ is not a primary goal, then back to the discussion at hand.
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