Good evening everybody, Not sure why it's me who's writing this message, but somebody needs to do it. Community maintenance of Java packages in Fedora is, for all intents and purposes, dead. Mikolaj keeps a bare minimum of packages working for the maven toolchain, but that's it. Fedora 35 will ship without packages for the Eclipse IDE, and none of the Java applications I know of are still in working order. While I had hoped that setting up a "new" SIG and gathering members to shore up community maintenance of the "extended core" Java stack, this effort fizzled out after mere weeks. "He's dead, Jim." Now to the reason why I feel the need to beat a dead horse: I wonder if the @java-maint-sig group should actually continue to exist (or rather, be maintainer or bugzilla assignee for packages, because I don't even know if FAS groups can be deleted). It seems that none of the current members (I am no longer one of them) are active. Bugs, including security issues with assigned CVE numbers, are collecting dust. Packages get orphaned and retired one by one because they fail to build or install. At this point, I'm still the only person with the password for the SIG's bugzilla account and the only administrator of the private mailing list - just because I wouldn't even know who to hand those things over to (fedora-infra?). There's nobody left, nobody is reading the mailing lists. Only tumbleweeds are here. Should the @java-maint-sig group be removed from any packages it is still associated with? Should it be dissolved, and members be removed? Should the remaining ruins that used to be packages be orphaned? Retired? Buried? Forgotten? I don't know. Fabio _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
