On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:42:38PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > One of the things I love about Fedora is that we don't have a big company- > > vs-community divide. > Huh? In what parallel universe do you live? We have a big company _investment_, but I don't think it's a divide. That's the one I live in. :) > Modularity is just yet another example that clearly shows this divide. Just > look at how Red Hat's desktop environment choice dominates all of Fedora > massively and how all the community-packaged desktop environments (i.e., all > those that do not have a footprint as their logo) consistently get treated > as second-class citizens (as even a quick glance at getfedora.org will show > you instantly). If you're going to define "second class" as "not the technology used for one of our Editions" — or even "not at the top of the Get Fedora page" — then, I guess, sure, KDE meets that definition. But "second class" is an awfully strong word to throw around, with some serious implications. I don't think it right to use at all. >From a project participant point of view, contributors who work on KDE: - Have the same vote as everyone else. - Have the same ability to participate in discussion. - Have the same opportunity to participate in leadership. - Have the same ability to request funding. - Have the same opportunity to use Fedora build, QA, release, and other infrastructure. - In fact have, literally, exactly the same rights and duties as everyone else. >From a technology point of view: - KDE packages are included in the definition of Fedora's Critical Path (as are also XFCE and LXDE!) - Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop is a release-blocking deliverable. For Fedora 26, I personally spent hours tracking down and creating the fix for a release-blocking problem which had been open for months. (And Xfce is release-blocking on aarch64.) - We can and do include issues primarily affecting KDE on the list of "Prioritized Bugs". Meanwhile, many people in Fedora work on technologies that _don't_ get that special treatment. Those contributions are valuable too, and, again, those contributors have the same rights as everyone else — even though their software might not even be included on any ISOs we produce at all. Are these people then "third-class citizens"? No, of course not — they are part of the one single class of Fedora contributors. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Fedora Project Leader _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
