----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 1:16:22 PM > Subject: Re: Modularity and all the things > > On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 10:28:02PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > That's all well and good, but you seem to be forgetting that people > > are actually getting *paid* to work on modularity for fedora. > > Any proposal for an alternative, which apparently needs to arrive at > > least at MVP / proof-of-concept quality before it is even *considered* > > as an alternative without getting called "trolling", can likely only > > be worked on in somebody's spare time. I don't think that's a fair > > requirement, and "exploring and contributing" will stay limited to RH > > employees if that's the case. > > Well, it really depends on the circumstance. In general, it's just practical > reality that a proof of concept or MVP will get you a lot further than a > suggestion -- that's not, like, a Fedora law or something. > > There are certainly many examples of awesome great stuff that's been created > in Fedora without the investment of Red Hat (or anyone's) full time > employees. The zchunk metadata feature is a recent example. The Stewardship > SIG is another one. This is good stuff, and I'm super-happy to support it. > In both of those cases the people interested in that thing happening put in > exactly the kind of effort I'm talking about here. Hi Matthew, While we certainly aren't numerous, Dinesh (fas: dmoluguw) and myself (fas: cipherboy) contribute to the Stewardship SIG. Miro (fas: churchyard) also contributes a lot. And if the load got worse, I'm sure Endi (fas: edewata) would be willing to help. >From my organization at least, we have PM and management buy-in to continue contributing so long as we don't have a long-term solution that somebody else manages for us. So far, ursine packages have been our solution and we've helped with maintaining the stack as community members and giving back. That benefits all of Fedora. I think we've accomplished something useful with the Stewardship SIG. So sure, we don't work only on the Stewardship SIG... But three paid Red Hat employees contributing in official capacities (as we have time) should, IMO, count for something. :-) - Alex > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
