On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 08:40:45PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 06:10:33PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote: > > Consider the message that comments like this one and your last post > > send. I took the time to thoughtfully put together a set of ideas that > > can solve our problems in an easier and less controversial way by > > learning lessons from others who have traveled this path before us. > > > > You could have replied to my posts explaining why you think they won't > > achieve our goals. Instead, you have replied telling me that my efforts > > are not helpful, or that I need to have more details figured out than > > modularity does to participate in the conversation. You only quoted a > > single sentence from me - did you read the rest? Anybody can reply with > > a simple "what you wrote is not helpful", but it doesn't get us > > anywhere, and frankly it's lazy since you avoided countering my points, > > and a bit insulting too. > > Clearly we're having a failure to communicate here. I actually quoted less > than the entire message before because I felt like the rest of it was even > more inflammatory and trolling and I didn't want to escalate. Let's take > this offline and come back when we're on the same page about what we're even > *trying* to say rather than doing more back and forth. > I'd just like to say that I have found this thread very demoralizing. I think Randy has valid points and has brought them up far more respectfully than I could and I feel like it's being dismissed as trolling. I think this has a very negative affect on people's willingness to put their opinions out there and is going to lead to an echo chamber. Regards, Jeremy _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx