Il 28 aprile 2012 19:02, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto: > On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:31:59 +1000, GG (Guido) wrote: > >> To go back to initial proposal of >> revitalizing sponsor role, I think it would also be a good thing, >> given that we leverage on new possible sponsor responsibilities >> (ie, supervise new sponsorees' commits for X time after package >> creation, not just step in when there is something to fix). > > That's no new responsibilities. Sponsors have always been expected to do > that. With pkgdb, it requires "watch*" access to the packages. Else > it requires subscribing to the scm-commits list and filtering by > username/packagename. I've done that, and I've been aware of sponsors > who have done that, too. I wasn't aware of that; if it isn't a best practice, but a must do, the wiki page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_sponsor_responsibilities should be updated. > The 'X time after package creation' has never been defined anywhere, > and I don't think it would be a good idea to define it as a constant. > The level of hand-holding varies a lot. > >> More sponsors should bring more control, not easier membership. > > Too vague. Please expand on that. If this page is updated (I have no idea): https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/group/members/packager/*/sponsor?order_by=approval the sponsors group has not grown as a function of packages, nor as a function of package maintainers. Possibly because of the sponsor is a provenpackager thing, possibly because that was meant as "we need X sponsors to take care of the Y new maintainers requests we get each given time window". If we intend the sponsor as a mentor and a supervisor instead, the number of packages of his sponsorees couldn't reasonably grow too big, or control would be loosened. But I am not saying that a sponsor should be turned to a forced comaintainer for the time being, either. Hope this makes sense -- Guido Grazioli <guido.grazioli@xxxxxxxxx> Via Parri 11 48011 - Alfonsine (RA) (Italy) 3 Baltic Circuit - 3030 Point Cook - VIC (Australia) Mobile: +39 347 1017202 (10-18 GMT+12) Key FP = 7040 F398 0DED A737 7337 DAE1 12DC A698 5E81 2278 Linked in: http://www.linkedin.com/in/guidograzioli -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel