On 04/26/2012 01:18 PM, Nelson Marques wrote:
No dia 26 de Abril de 2012 01:08, Stephen Gallagher
<sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> escreveu:
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 22:43 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
Why not just drop the sponsorship process and just raise the barrier of
entry for the packaging process instead?
Like having to have been a comaintainer for atleast one release cycle
then completed x many reviews in the next etc. ( essentally what you
propose there just without the "sponsor" ) and finally you are
maintaining your own package or if we drop that outdated ownership model
we have in place are free to roam "free" in the packaging community and
assist when ever, where ever possible...
This approach completely disregards the very common example of "I'm an
upstream maintainer of a cool project. I want to package and maintain it
for Fedora." Under your approach, they'd first have to become involved
in other projects before being allowed to add their package. This is
unacceptable and would basically guarantee that no upstream would
willingly involve itself with Fedora.
I was asked by a upstream to maintain a package for Fedora due to the
high demand it has from Fedora users, unfortunatly I backed down from
the proposal for several purposes:
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Still, besides this sad experience, isn't this the kind of cooperation
we should encourage? Now and then those great people with great apps
want their app in Fedora. Instead of saying "Wonderful, welcome", we
send them a list of an actually quite complicated set of requirements to
become a packager. But those people don't want that, they just want
their application packaged. And although they havn't the packaging
skills, they know their app. And that's actually a damned good starting
point.
What I'm talking about is to tell these great people that there are two
ways to get their app packaged. One way is to become a packager, and so
far this discussion is about that path,. Obviously, the requirements
here are beyond knowing an app, though.
The other way should be to find, persuade (bribe?) a packager to take
care of the package in cooperation with the developer. As I understand
it, there is no such path today(?) I think it's a pity, because the
cooperation between a developer and a packager is actually a good way of
doing it.
Just my 5 öre ;)
--alec
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