On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:13:52 +0200, AL (Alec) wrote: > But isn't part of the problem that > current process forces people which just are interested in a package to > suddenly discover that they are applying to be packagers? We are in need of _more_ packagers, not less packagers who grab a hundred packages each without actually maintaining them all properly (and sometimes even without using the package at all). Especially if as a packager you're not involved upstream, you need to stay in contact with upstream through other ways and e.g. observe upstream scm commits, forward bug reports and fixes, ... > Shouldn't some > of these cases be better off if they could drop "their" package in some > kind of wishlist 2.0, and try to get in contact with a packager instead? Same answer as above. Plus: A wishlist, whether 1.0 or 2.0, is just another sort of queue. Existing packagers may take a look and process items on the list. You need N>0 packagers for each item on the list. A user doesn't help in that case. A user's contact with upstream is useless, too, unless the user joins the Fedora Project and contributes __something__ to the package, whether it be bugzilla work or filing of updates, at least __something__ at all. And an upstream developer is available always (unless it's software that isn't maintained anymore). So, what has been proposed before (years ago even) is for advanced packagers (aka "provenpackagers" or experienced packagers) to lower the hurdle and trust them more in that they know their stuff. They would not need to wait for somebody else (possibly a fresh packager) to review'n'approve a package or just its licensing. It's considered ridiculous by some that "senior packagers" still need approval for even simple new packages or package renames. -- Fedora release 17 (Beefy Miracle) - Linux 3.3.2-8.fc17.x86_64 loadavg: 0.18 0.09 0.06 -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel