-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8/30/10 10:23 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Wow, and everyone gets categorical again. You can disagree with people, > but this is a bit different. Yes, amazingly, things do matter on a six > month timeframe in the 'real world' (whatever that is). Example - I got > a laptop. The graphics on it don't work, except for vesa, which is very > slow (can't play video, and yes, that matters to me) and doesn't run at > native resolution (yes, that matters to me). If Ben doesn't land a fix > for this in Fedora 13's kernel I have to either wait six months to be > able to use my laptop, upgrade it to F14 (which kind of obviates the > point of having a stable release), or run the proprietary driver. None > of these feel like great options. > > Just saying, yes, sometimes, it really is reasonable to not want to wait > six months for something to get fixed, and please try to at least > vaguely consider the possibility that your theoretical principles may > not always apply perfectly. Maybe we don't want Fedora to be Rawhide, > but maybe we also don't want it to be a distro where nothing ever gets > updated either... Where do you see somebody proposing that no updates be issued? Where do you see somebody proposing a setup where fixing a graphics card can't be done in the stable release kernel? You've built up a nice strawman that you've lovingly kicked down. I don't think anybody wants to prevent fixing a graphics chip issue in a kernel update. What we wouldn't like to see is dragging in a brand new xorg major release and kernel major release and dri major release in order to make that happen. Do you see a difference there? - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx8lCQACgkQ4v2HLvE71NWjoACeOjpdbr4UjtYM6i903macm69B LAQAoMYGhtKpFAf+wGXlw9YylFATidh6 =YOwp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel