-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/28/2010 09:25 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jesse Keating wrote: >> The cynic in me would expect that the people who want something different >> than the fire hose we have now are silently leaving, and those that are >> left are going to say they like the deluge of updates. > > You say that as if it were a negative thing. To me it is. It's you and people like you that want to shove a ton of updates down the throats of our stable release users (including changes that alter behavior and sonames etc...) that have ruined the Fedora I helped to build. I want my Fedora back, I don't want what you're creating. It's actually very positive, it > means we have found our niche and set some very specific expectations in our > user base! We should stick to that and not suddenly turn around half-turn. We've found our niche, but chasing away our previous niche (and having less users show up in our tracking mechanism for it) It's getting to the point where me, as a long time Fedora developer and sometimes leader, is not enjoying using Fedora any more. Every update run can break things, and often does. Every update takes for ever because there are so many updates. Too many to review each one and see what it does, and how to maybe test it and provide feedback. Updates runs just get pushed off longer and longer so that I have a block of time to A) apply the damn things, and B) spend a few hours recovering from any sort of fallout in my workflow. If I don't enjoy using the product I'm creating, that doesn't bode well. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkx71lsACgkQ4v2HLvE71NUnGQCfT5YAjnmAwonEmY55mM5sl73Q rl0AoLTO/Ze9fzkLBGnohyltNtjUupmz =Aec5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel