Re: systemd and changes

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On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Eric Sandeen wrote:

> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
> >
> >> It's just risk management.  I think we'd be better off acknowledging there
> >> are unknown unknowns and try to mitigate them.  One way we could have done
> >> that this time around was making it an optional feature (as Matt was
> >> mentioning in a previous email) for F14 and then decide in F15 if it was
> >> ready.  Unfortunately that's not the path we seem to be on.  We unwisely
> >> seemed to declare it ready before anyone even saw it then we ignored what
> >> we didn't know as if we knew there were going to be no problems.  The sad
> >> thing is that's such an easy fix by making brand new features for core
> >> components like this opt in, even if it's just for a single release.
> >
> > Well, ironically enough, Lennart's last big revolution illustrates the
> > problem with that. PulseAudio - previously PolypAudio, remember - was
> > 'opt-in' for several releases; it was packaged in Fedora and many other
> > major distributions, you could enable it just by installing it. It was
> > used by approximately no-one. People just don't opt in to big bits of
> > infrastructural change unless they have some very specific reason to do
> > so; booting the system more or less works for most people, so why would
> > they 'opt in' to a new init daemon?
>
> If it's worth the revolution, wouldn't people choose to opt in?
>
> If nobody ever opts in, perhaps it's not worth the revolution?
>
> Just a thought ;)
>

People like you and me would opt-in.  (well I would on some hosts) because
we know what we're doing.  Expert eyes get a look at it before it's forced
onto our users, who are already leaving in leaps and bounds.

	-Mike
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