On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Eric Sandeen wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > > > >> It's just risk management. I think we'd be better off acknowledging there > >> are unknown unknowns and try to mitigate them. One way we could have done > >> that this time around was making it an optional feature (as Matt was > >> mentioning in a previous email) for F14 and then decide in F15 if it was > >> ready. Unfortunately that's not the path we seem to be on. We unwisely > >> seemed to declare it ready before anyone even saw it then we ignored what > >> we didn't know as if we knew there were going to be no problems. The sad > >> thing is that's such an easy fix by making brand new features for core > >> components like this opt in, even if it's just for a single release. > > > > Well, ironically enough, Lennart's last big revolution illustrates the > > problem with that. PulseAudio - previously PolypAudio, remember - was > > 'opt-in' for several releases; it was packaged in Fedora and many other > > major distributions, you could enable it just by installing it. It was > > used by approximately no-one. People just don't opt in to big bits of > > infrastructural change unless they have some very specific reason to do > > so; booting the system more or less works for most people, so why would > > they 'opt in' to a new init daemon? > > If it's worth the revolution, wouldn't people choose to opt in? > > If nobody ever opts in, perhaps it's not worth the revolution? > > Just a thought ;) > People like you and me would opt-in. (well I would on some hosts) because we know what we're doing. Expert eyes get a look at it before it's forced onto our users, who are already leaving in leaps and bounds. -Mike -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel