On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:52 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: > It's just risk management. I think we'd be better off acknowledging there > are unknown unknowns and try to mitigate them. One way we could have done > that this time around was making it an optional feature (as Matt was > mentioning in a previous email) for F14 and then decide in F15 if it was > ready. Unfortunately that's not the path we seem to be on. We unwisely > seemed to declare it ready before anyone even saw it then we ignored what > we didn't know as if we knew there were going to be no problems. The sad > thing is that's such an easy fix by making brand new features for core > components like this opt in, even if it's just for a single release. Well, ironically enough, Lennart's last big revolution illustrates the problem with that. PulseAudio - previously PolypAudio, remember - was 'opt-in' for several releases; it was packaged in Fedora and many other major distributions, you could enable it just by installing it. It was used by approximately no-one. People just don't opt in to big bits of infrastructural change unless they have some very specific reason to do so; booting the system more or less works for most people, so why would they 'opt in' to a new init daemon? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel