On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Alexander GS <alxgrtnstrngl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, 2014-02-03 at 12:06 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Basically, nothing about any decision that has been made by FESCo, the >> Board, or the Workstation WG so far as I can see places any particular >> restrictions on us at all as to how we decide to define, describe and >> deliver desktops outside the one the Workstation WG decides to choose >> as >> the basis of their product. > > > "the Workstation WG decides to choose as the basis of their product" > > Please don't do this, it's a really bad idea! > > One of the major divisive actions taken by Ubuntu was to make > Canonical's own desktop Unity the default for that desktop. There was a > huge outpouring of discontent and it fragmented their user-base. You > should avoid that sort of situation at all costs. In that context there > shouldn't be a default desktop environment for the Workstation Product > if this proves to be too controversial which it is. > > There can be officially Fedora Workstation "supported desktops" and the > select between Fedora branded versions of Gnome Shell (Gnome 3), Mate > (Gnome 2) and KDE (important!) available via the installer. This isn't > that different from installing a Fedora or CentOS server and being able > to select what kind of server your setting up such as Apache, NGINX or > Tomcat at the installer stage. > > Perhaps part of unifying the Linux desktop space means staying away from > the whole "default desktop" idea and merely providing a limited > selection of "supported" desktops. I think this is the right way to move forward. Just give the user the option. Pick 3 or 4 desktops and roll with it. (Gnome, KDE, MATE, Cinnamon). I feel like users are "tricked" in to using Gnome 3.. other desktops aren't advertised on our website really and when doing an install with just "next,next,next" you get Gnome. Also, maybe we should look at tweaking the out of the box Gnome 3 defaults. So I switched to Gnome 3 over the weekend and have been using it heavily. After installing every available extension and the tweak tool, it's not as bad as it used to be. However, without the extensions and the tweak tool, it's really bad. Again, I'd like to bring up the importance of "it just works" out of the box. Gnome 3 doesn't really do that well out of the box currently IMO. Dan -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop
