On 3 February 2014 13:26, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Really why is the "workstation working group" dictating and decided that.. > a) it's an single product > b) a single desktop environment > c) which desktop environment it is The reality is, what we've done for the last 19 releases isn't working. People don't know what "Fedora" is. Ubuntu has done a much better job of marketing themselves, and I'm sure it's no small amount due to the lack of confusion about their brand and offering. At the moment people wanting a Fedora desktop are shown this: http://fedoraproject.org/en_GB/get-fedora#desktops which is confusing as hell. All desktops that look somewhat similar with different subtle architectural, cultural or package changes in each. Compare to http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop which clearly has one product. Ubuntu still has a KDE version, it's just not called "Ubuntu KDE" and placed with the same prominence as "Ubuntu The-one-most-people-are-actually-using" If people want to go and build Kedora or MATEora that's fine for me, and probably makes sense to share infrastructure and base package sets. To allow users to choose a "spin" for our workstation product? Crazy. Richard. -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop