On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 08:14:34AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Getting away from continuous distraction by the next shiny thing, move > > the quality threshold way up, and deliver products instead of > > prototypes. > Well if that's where people want to go, it's where they want to go. But > in that case, I'd suggest we'd need to discuss the stuff I raised: > fiddling around the edges of product definitions and target audiences > and our exact set of deliverables is all well and good, but as long as > we have the Change policies, release cycle, approach to 'stability', and > quality tolerances we're currently sporting, we're not going to be > building viable products. +1 to discussing all of those things. This process is just one aspect of the whole conversation. > Personally I'd be a bit sad to start building Ford Focuses, and I do > worry about the long-term implications of there no longer being a major > distro with a large number of associated talented upstream developers > where you can do big change fast. But it's certainly a choice we can > make. I don't really know my cars, but I don't think Ford Focus is what we want to go for in any case. I'm confident that we can make big change available quickly without being so disruptive to users. We need more than just the three-products approach to do that, though. (This is a conversation to take back to the main devel list. And probably after the F20 release crunch is through.) -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> -- desktop mailing list desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop