Stephen Morris: >>> Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio >>> muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net >>> there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get >>> pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not >>> exactly stable. Tim: >> It does on my Fedora 36 installation, without me doing anything. I >> did a default fresh install, and this's what it installed, I didn't >> do any customisation of audio: It has pipepire and wireplumber, >> there's no pulseaudio. Stephen Morris: > I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a > suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing > dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting > both Gnome and KDE refused to start. > I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and > pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube > videos play properly with sound. I should add my (fresh) install was a MATE-Compiz spin, with no other desktop systems installed. So we may have different defaults. [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pulse\* pulseaudio-libs-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pulseaudio-utils-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pipe\* libpipeline-1.5.5-2.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-codec-aptx-0.3.59-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-libs-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-utils-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 I'm inclined to say if you've got a working system, then don't try swapping pulseaudio for pipewire, or vice versa. Stick with a working system. I wonder if your prior research showing pipewire needed lots of configuration was to do with people using it like jack? So they can plumb *this* through *that* for special purposes. I had a brief dabble with that trying several different audio recording software programs and gave up for it being hideously complex and ill-explained. I work in audio-video production, and patching hardware into extremely complex combinations is something I'm well used to (since the 1990s). But I find the computing fraternity's attempts to do similar things always terribly mangled. Audio workstations are a nightmare. Way too much like the old domestic Tascam 4 channel cassette decks with people submixing and overdubbing all over the place to cope with its lack of enough tracks, and its oddball input channels configuration. So I don't go much past Audacity, and manual editing that's not all that far removed from 1/4" tape-editing with tape and razor blades. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue