On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 09:03 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio muted > that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net there is > potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get pipewire to > work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not exactly stable. > I also can't remove pulseaudio because pulseaudio-module-bluetooth want > to remove Gnome-shell. It does on my Fedora 36 installation, without me doing anything. I did a default fresh install, and this's what it installed, I didn't do any customisation of audio: It has pipepire and wireplumber, there's no pulseaudio. I haven't tried swapping or having two conflicting things together. I'm yet to try Fedora 37. I do have an issue where the volume control applet (MATE) keeps crashing, but it reloads and audio is still playing before, during, and after. The crashing is a recent thing, in the last few weeks. I hadn't had it before then. So I'm inclined to say it does "work," but there's some aspect of it that's a problem with your system. Possibly because you did an upgrade install you've inherited a conflict. I stopped doing them years ago because of that kind of thing (amongst other upgrade problems - like it taking an age to work out what packages to install, me spending ages managing choice conflicts, very slow installs, lots of config debugging, etc). I've noted throughout your thread that you also have problems with pulseaudio, and getting youtube videos to even start playing (here, they'll play even without any audio hardware enabled). So, it sounds like you have quite a few conflicts. Do you have a spare hard drive that you can try a fresh install to, with your usual drive unplugged? Or can you try running a live disc? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue