Hi Tim,Stephen Morris:Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not exactly stable.Tim:It does on my Fedora 36 installation, without me doing anything. I did a default fresh install, and this's what it installed, I didn't do any customisation of audio: It has pipepire and wireplumber, there's no pulseaudio.Stephen Morris:I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting both Gnome and KDE refused to start. I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube videos play properly with sound.I should add my (fresh) install was a MATE-Compiz spin, with no other desktop systems installed. So we may have different defaults. [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pulse\* pulseaudio-libs-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pulseaudio-utils-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pipe\* libpipeline-1.5.5-2.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-codec-aptx-0.3.59-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-libs-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-utils-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64
I'm running with KDE and Gnome and when I issued those two command in F37 I got a similar display. There are a few pulseaudio packages that aren't installed, but if pulseaudio is deprecated it's not work installing them.
[Steve@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa \*pulse\*
pulseaudio-libs-16.1-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-utils-16.1-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-libs-glib2-16.1-1.fc37.x86_64
gvncpulse-1.3.0-5.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pulseaudio-qt-1.3-3.fc37.x86_64
kde-settings-pulseaudio-37.0-1.fc37.noarch
[steve@fedora ~]$ rpm -qa \*pipe\*
libpipeline-1.5.6-2.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-libs-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-codec-aptx-0.3.60-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-alsa-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
pipewire-utils-0.3.61-1.fc37.x86_64
kpipewire-5.26.4-1.fc37.x86_64
Yes, I'm going to leave things as they are. The only reason I started playing around was youtube videos that played fine in Windows in Firefox Nightly wouldn't play in F37 in Firefox Nightly unless audio was manually muted in the video.I'm inclined to say if you've got a working system, then don't try swapping pulseaudio for pipewire, or vice versa. Stick with a working system.
I was going to provide the link that I bookmarked, but I've lost that because I didn't backup the .mozilla folder when I rebuilt my system, and it hadn't synced with Nightly in Windows.I wonder if your prior research showing pipewire needed lots of configuration was to do with people using it like jack? So they can plumb *this* through *that* for special purposes. I had a brief dabble with that trying several different audio recording software programs and gave up for it being hideously complex and ill-explained.
regards,
Steve
I work in audio-video production, and patching hardware into extremely complex combinations is something I'm well used to (since the 1990s). But I find the computing fraternity's attempts to do similar things always terribly mangled. Audio workstations are a nightmare. Way too much like the old domestic Tascam 4 channel cassette decks with people submixing and overdubbing all over the place to cope with its lack of enough tracks, and its oddball input channels configuration. So I don't go much past Audacity, and manual editing that's not all that far removed from 1/4" tape-editing with tape and razor blades.
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