Michael wrote: > Oh, and my personal opinion, ‘they’ don’t care if civilization stagnates. > Like said earlier about the Middle Ages, ~1,000 years of stagnation, but > the ‘elites’ keep their rule the whole time by keeping everyone > uneducated. Well if you substract the down and up part of the wave you are left with about 500y which somehow corresponds to the fact that it was colder in Europe and elsewhere and there was not enough food. So it could be the elites had something in mind and used the circumstances to their advantage, but I tend to admit that the food factor can not be let out of the equation. In fact they turned the heresy called Christianity into their advantage by the genius of Constantin the Great so that they can consolidate the power in the Roman Empire and thus save the Empire. It is remarkable to see the layer of paganism under the layer of Christianity. I have full respect for this. Also full respect to the Medici who gave us Michelangelo, Leonardo and the Renaissance. The conclusion we can draw is that we need enlightened monarchs, who bring stability. I somehow do not see these in the west - it is pure irony, but sadly true. Perhaps we evidence the shift of the pendulum to the east unless we bring up some new Constantin the Great or preferably Medici. ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx