I was not having in mind those high bandwith people, who don't see the difference between CD ROM installation and Internet based one. I am talking about newbies, from the Windows world, who used to have programs for playing audio and video files INCLUDED in the OS. This does nothing to do with the flavours, it has to do with the choice. Should we blame them because of that? Of course that advanced users can go and fetch RPMS from the Internet, no question about that (yes, I heard of something called Fedora or freshrpms.net, thank you). I am saying the following: can we strech a bit and give help to people like Matthias to compose that EXTRA ISO to be downloaded, not from Red Hat, so they can stay clean, but from somewhere else? Red Hat should do two things: 1. Include the information that this CD exists, but that they have nothing to do with it, etc, both on the site and in the Desktop somewhere, like they issued that "Red Hat Speaks On Multimedia" for the Psyche release. 2. Present something like yum or apt bundled in the Control Center (it could be called "More Programs", or something), Internet oriented, with wast database of all sorts of programs, ready for download from we-all-know-which-sites. Nice warning "We don't have nothing to do with the following steps, and it is not supported in any way." notice would have to be included here. The point is: when newbie, or Windows convert tries Red Hat, he/she would not go away scared/frustrated because it doesn't have this or that. He will have an EXTRA ISO to choose from, just insert the CD and pick programs (audio, video, etc.). Advanced users (and newbies) can go also to Control Center and pick more programs, unsupported by Red Hat. The important thing is that the choice exists! This went too long for one post, I have more to say here later. On uto, 2003-05-27 at 06:08, M. Fioretti wrote: > On Mon, May 26, 2003 23:15:53 at 11:15:53PM -0400, Audioslave - 7M3 - Live (creed7m3live@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > M. Fioretti wrote: > > > > > >If Red Hat keeps stripping down their release size and keeps removing > > >the programs that many of his *current* users want, maybe many more > > >people who cannot use it now will have an easier time. See my > > >signature. > > > > > > > When a distro has about everything that is needed. Then it keeps getting > > less complete. You would think that people would be less likely to buy > > the product. > > > > Using Red Hat, Since version 5.2, for a full-time OS. I have seen many > > used programs disappear. But it seems that the pace is being too > > accelerated. > > You and I are saying the same thing, I guess: past versions of Red Hat > had already everything needed to those users who, since then, have > left the distro because it became too HW demanding, or too confusing, > by discarding simpler programs in favour of more good-looking > stuff. Which is usually needed by those users who have a powerful PC > and a broadband connection anyway, so they wouldn't even realize if > the things they want were installed from CDROM or from the network. > > Ciao, > Marco Fioretti > > -- > Marco Fioretti m.fioretti, at the server inwind.it > Red Hat for low memory http://www.rule-project.org/en/ > > "If automobiles had followed the same development cycle as the > computer, a Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million > miles per gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone > inside." --Robert Cringley -- Igor Nestorovic University of Belgrade Faculty of Economics http://jung.ekof.bg.ac.yu ICQ# 31079000
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