Re: Redhat mail-spam RBL block of *@rogers.com valid users

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On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 03:29:51PM -0400, Steven W. Orr wrote:
> 
> Now we're getting somewhere. My particular ISP does not supply me with an 
> entire hierarchy of newsgroups that my for-pay NNTP server does. Still 
> think I'm making a bad choice?

Depends how you use it.
I mainly use my ISP's NNTP server (since that's the server with the fatest
connection) and then go to other NNTP servers to read the newsgroups that
aren't carried elsewhere.

You're free to use whatever servers you want. Just be aware that
a) not everybody will feel that the solution that suits you suits them
b) the server isn't obliged to allow you its use unless a contract has
   been established.

> There's no mystery here. Clearly (according to their own message, they are
> blocking on a range of addresses that are not known to be spammers.

Red Hat's free to block whatever IP range they want for whatever reason
they want. You're free to agree or disagree on the intelligence (or lack
thereof) of using said list but I'm not going to comment on it until I've
seen it.

If you want to make your opinion on this known, I would suggest contacting
Red Hat's postmaster and talking to him about it. He'll probably be able
to explain/discuss/justify RH's setup better than the list members.

> A possible solution to their problem is to segregate out a seperate server
> for mailinglists from the rest of the mail used by the company. Clearly
> everyone agrees that the lists themselves only allow mail from
> subscribers, so no RBLs are needed for that (possible) subdomain.

Yup. Sounds like the best solution to this particular problem.

> Failover has to do with reception, not transmission.
>
> See the MX record for syslang.net. I'm primary and my DNS provider is
> secondary.

I'm talking about transmission failover, not setting up secondary mail
servers for your domain.
Postfix has a fallback_relay parameter. Quoting from the documentation:

 The fallback_relay parameter specifies zero or more hosts or domains
 to hand off mail to if a message destination is not found, or if a
 destination is unreachable.

Whatever SMTP server you're using might have this feature or similar.

Emmanuel





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