On Thu, 2003-04-24 at 21:04, Steven W. Orr wrote: > > All of a sudden with no notice, a lot of people seem to be unable to use > their own sendmail servers to send mail to redhat.com unless they either > go through their ISP's smpt server. I'm asking that Red Hat please stop > this policy. From my perspective, there has *not* been much spam going > through the lists. I find it disturbing that a dialup modem address RBL is Also, there's not much point in RBL'ing incoming mail to a mailing list, when that mailing list requires subscription _and_ confirmation to post. Very often, that's more than enough to keep the spam out. It also depends on the list; perhaps some lists get spammed more than other. But "if i were the other guy" :-) i'd start by not performing any blacklisting on the mailing list server, and see what happens. Do the list get a lot of spam? Ok, add a few droplets of RBL to the concoction. But that depends also on the company's mail infrastructure. Depending on the architecture, sometimes it's easy to apply selective filters (only to personal inboxes, not to mail lists), sometimes it's not. I agree that RBL'ing the mail to the mailing lists is annoying (i can't send from my own Comcast cable modem connection), but OTOH we should assume the guys who take care of this list are not malevolent. They probably do the best they can. -- Florin Andrei "The state of security in the software industry is 'don't worry, be crappy.'" - Maryann Davidson