On Tue, July 31, 2007 8:40 am, Eric Butera wrote: > On 7/31/07, Nathan Nobbe <quickshiftin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> i >> feel sorry for Richard; if youd ever seen a successful >> implementation of >> design patterns in the wild >> well you would probly feel like i do... gotta have em :) This post is a result of SEVERAL recent emails I've received, and is not directed SOLELY at the OP. WHY do people ASSUME that a poster has never actually tried X, just because they don't like it?! I do not understand this attitude. It's particularly annoying when I specifically state that I *have* suffered through several implementation of design patterns in the wild (or whatever it is that somebody ASSUMES I have not investigated). In my experience, things go great at first, until they fall apart under their own bloat, and patterns are mis-applied by Junior Programmers who don't really understand what they are doing, and requirements change, but the quick-hack "pattern" which no longer fits the foot is still being used as a shoe simply because that's the way it always has been, and... After 25 years of coding, I think it's safe to say that you're not going to "wow" me with anything all that new and nifty about any technology/idea that has been around for more than 1 year. I've already seen it, I've evaluated it, and am extremely unlikely to suddenly wake up and say "Yeah, I'd LOVE to wear a size 9 shoe on my size 12 foot!" [*] But telling me I should try something I've already said I evaluated and rejected is just downright rude, imho. I'm not trying to be a jerk or pick a fight here, but am suggesting list members think about this before they post. Especially that whole PHP-Editors thread, which always consists of one person from each camp posting their favorite editor, which is about as useless as it gets... ymmv naiaa * Which I actually had to do one time for about a half-hour when I bought a mis-matched pair of shoes. It hurt. A lot. -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
