yes well at the beginning of the design patterns book they basically explain the same thing. if you dont understand the basic oo priciples, then design patterns arent going to make any sense. these basic concepts are (not looking in the book [testing myself]..) encapsulation abstraction polymorphism inheritence ok now i will look in the book; lets see if ive learned anything; nice; thats what they have there; ya; get the basics down, but then; dont stop; learn design patterns! -nathan On 7/25/07, Tony Marston <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Design patterns will just confuse the issue. If you come from a non-OO background (just like me) and want to know what all this OO stuff is about you might want to take a look at the following: http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/good-bad-oop.html http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/hero-or-heretic.html http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/oop-for-heretics.html http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/what-is-oop.html http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/databaseobjects.html http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/databaseobjects2.html I wrote these for the simple reason that, just like you, I found too many articles with lots of theory but no substance. Unfortunately too many of these theories conflicted with my past experience, so I chose to ignore most of them, and achieved far better results. You can download my sample application from http://www.tonymarston.net/php-mysql/sample-application.html which provides a working implementation which you can study at your leisure. -- Tony Marston http://www.tonymarston.net http://www.radicore.org ""Nathan Nobbe"" <quickshiftin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:7dd2dc0b0707250839j4d43272boea44f0ccf5fe6148@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > eric is exactly right; design patterns are key; and so is that book ;) > > -nathan > > On 7/25/07, Eric Butera <eric.butera@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 7/25/07, Suporte - DPRJ Sistemas <suporte@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Hello! >> > >> > Is there anyone here interested in teaching (lond distance, off course) >> OOP? >> > >> > I would like to learn how to use objects (I have been working all my >> life using structured language). All the books I have tried just "talk" >> about theory not practical issues. >> > >> > I intend to pay for the classes. >> > >> > Thank you >> > >> > Deleo >> > >> >> Do yourself a favor and read up on "design patterns." I think that >> they go hand in hand alonside learning OOP. The reason I say this is >> because people can talk about encapsulation and polymorphism all day >> long, but until I see some concrete examples with real world >> implementations it won't stick in my head. >> >> I really enjoy this book: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/hfdesignpat/ >> It is for Java, but the idea behind patterns is that they are ways of >> doing things and not syntax. This means that you aren't really tied >> to any given language because once you know how to build a factory you >> just implement the best way you can given the structure of the >> language. >> >> -- >> PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php