tedd wrote:
At 8:53 PM +0100 7/30/07, Stut wrote:
tedd wrote:
> >Don't expect that only one living
> >entity can envision such a permutation.
Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine
the truth of that statement.
The phone was independently envisioned by two distinct humans at the
same time. The same is true of calculus. So you are wrong, we are
capable of determine the validity of the statement by the existence of
such events in history.
-snip-
No, I was addressing a concept deeper than that. The only one who can
envision such a permutation is God, not man. Your previous paragraph
mentioned permutation of what might exist -- which would be infinite.
The only living entity that fills that bill is God.
Now, you may argue that, but it's not a topic for this list.
Indeed not, but I must point out your assumption that God exists which
is in no way a certainty regardless of your beliefs.
-Stut
Yes, but that's why it's called faith.
My point was that it makes no sense to try and prove or demonstrate
anything using God because the existance of God itself cannot be proven
or demonstrated.
-Stut
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