On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 15:06 -0400, tedd wrote: > At 2:30 PM -0400 7/30/07, Robert Cummings wrote: > >On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 14:08 -0400, tedd wrote: > >> At 12:50 AM +0800 7/31/07, Crayon Shin Chan > > > > "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and > > unto God the things that are God's" > > Yes, but that was Christ answer to a question of paying taxes, was it not? That doesn't change it's applicability beyond the realm of taxes. > >But I'm not (even though I did just quote it ;). More appropriate to the > >world of today is the following quote: > > > > "All your base are belong to us". > > > >Ownership is an illusion... What you have may be taken away at anytime > >by the state (be it your own state or a victorious state that just > >subjugated your previous state). > > But illusion all we have. There is no truth in perception. No, we don't all have the illusion. I am in no way under the illusion, but I do find myself disinclined to pursue change :) > >Moving along to the philosophical... anything that exists is merely a > >permutation of what might exist. > > More accurately, what doesn't exist is merely a permutation in > variations in the theme of what does. There is no more accuracy in the above statement. It is the complement of the former statement... although you worded it quite strangely. > >Don't expect that only one living > >entity can envision such a permutation. > > Don't expect anyone with our limitations to be capable to determine > the truth of that statement. The phone was independently envisioned by two distinct humans at the same time. The same is true of calculus. So you are wrong, we are capable of determine the validity of the statement by the existence of such events in history. Let's just say that all that is owned is owned because one or more creatures died so that ownership could be enforced. Yes, you may go to Walmart and buy your CD, but the resources that built Walmart, that built your CD, that built the stereos that play the CD, or the computer, or what have you, were created from resources that at one time in existence were freely available to all creatures upon this planet. The entire principle of ownership is based on misery. Cheers, Rob. -- ........................................................... SwarmBuy.com - http://www.swarmbuy.com Leveraging the buying power of the masses! ........................................................... -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php