Bob <w8imo@xxxxxxxx> writes: > Jeff Spirer wrote: > > > I do 4x6 because the printer is the size of a lunchbox and has a > > handle and I take two of them. I have seen people with a larger > > printer, but it's a lot different in terms of space and supplies. > > I don't know what kind of printer he has. I'll have to ask him about > that. He does have a van. Now I'm wondering how he powers the > printer...... Most lap tops have 12VDC adapters, but do printers? Not generally. However, a 12VDC to 120VAC inverter of the low power needed for a printer would be quite cheap. > > Manipulation, IMO, takes us out of the realm of photography and into > > digital art in some cases. > > > > When someone can show me the line, I'll believe this. So far, > > nobody has shown me the line. Most of my manipulated work is > > considered "straight" by the people that see it because the > > manipulation is done in a way as to not be obvious, even in > > composites. So where is the line drawn if the print doesn't give > > any clues? And how is digital compositing different than darkroom > > compositing, which has been going on for over 100 years. There is a > > print in the Getty Museum from the late 1800s that is a composite of > > five different negatives, done because there was no way to capture > > the scene in one exposure. Nobody ever complained about that one, > > so I don't get it. > > > I get your points, and I ask now as I did then, would any reader of a > newspaper know the difference? No, they wouldn't. But isn't that the point? They *wouldn't know* that what they were seeing had been deliberately altered. For many articles the removal of a reflection wouldn't matter; probably for *most* articles. But the principle that newspapers shouldn't knowingly distort reality seems fairly important to me, even if it means they avoid doing harmless things sometimes. > I think the biggest reason I resisted entering the digital photo > world so long and so hard is that at the end of June I end an almost > 40 year career working in the digital world. My relaxation was in > part dropping a roll of film at the lab and going over the prints > and in part spending time in the darkroom instead of in front the > computer like I did all day at work. Bob Well, I hope being dragged kicking and screaming into digital doesn't ruin it for you. The digital world has been my career since 1969 -- all software development, I've done everything from business software to the web to embedded software to software product development for several big players (Digital Equipment Corporation in the 80s, and now Sun Microsystems). I still do programming and system management playing for fun, along with software, myself. -- David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@xxxxxxxx>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/> RKBA: <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/> Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/> Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>
