> Oh well, live and learn is what this is all about. Jim Yes, live and learn. I certainly will. You try to take on board requests for less "structural" reviews and discover that actually, the only people that give a toss are those with tilted viewfinders. So I won't leave you out again old chap: so you had better make sure the birds have sharp peaks, highlights in their eyes and fly towards the camera :o) As to the sponges - they can whistle for it in future! Bob