On Nov 24, 2008, at 8:37 AM, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > ext Mark Haury wrote: >> Ryan Abel wrote: >>>> Yes, upgrade to Diablo, it has a much more useful Application >>>> Manager. :) >> >> ...and a bunch of other stuff is broken that previously worked... >> >>>> If that's not an option, running apt-get update as root in xterm >>>> will >>>> give you more verbose errors >> >> ...which is fine for advanced users, but not an option for the >> average consumer >> end-user. Just getting root access is not trivial. > > Didn't the Application manager log provide enough information? > > (And if not, what was missing from it and could you file a bug about > that?) He was using Bora, so, no, but any bug filed would be WORKSFORME, so it's a moot discussion. >> If you're going to sell a device that requires significant Linux >> knowledge to >> use, that should be clearly stated in any sales information. > > You're mailing on the "maemo-users" list, which in its > "sales information": > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman//listinfo/maemo-users > > states that it's: > "A list for users of maemo Development Platform." > > (It's a bit confusing name.) With the redefinition of Maemo and the shift in maemo.org's role, the description really should be changed. Whatever it's supposed to be, it's definitely a list of users of Maemo these days. Either way, his point about Linux knowledge is also moot, as nothing of the sort is required for either as-advertised usage or most things outside of that. . . . -- Ryan Abel Maemo Community Council chair _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users