On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 17:41 +0100, ext Michael Thompson wrote: > > > On 16/08/07, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa at nokia.com> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 17:17 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > On 8/16/07, Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa at nokia.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 16:51 +0100, ext Andrew Flegg > wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > Battery life eating is a particularly tricky bug to nail > down to a > > single application (or home applet). > > That's why users shouldn't try a bunch of new apps in one go. > Maybe some way to easily share information about battery life > would be > useful on maemo.org ... > > Quim: what do you think about extending the rating of > applications so > that they could cover several aspects, including but not only > battery > usage? > > How do we know if an application has good power usage. > > How do we know what the actual current consumption is? > > Does the hardware know what current is being consumed from the battery > (and can that info be exposed in/proc or the battery applett) or is > the battery app guessing based on the battery voltage? There is ongoing work to provide users with graphical information about current consumption. The idea is that when you want to measure an application, you can first do a sort of "calibration" with a clean system in the state you are interested (i.e. wlan on or off), then install the application to be tested and run gain the measurement. > > > You are proposing a shortcut that is encouraging crappy > code to be > > > written, since the system will always take care of saying: > "psst, > > > pretend to be a properly written piece of code". > > > > Yes, I am. On the basis that this is a) easier and b) more > likely than > > getting end-user tools to properly diagnose which > applications aren't > > well behaved. > > That's not true. Proper tools don't need that. As Eero has > already > described, it's possible to use existing stats from the > system. > > I'm not sure that strace'ing is very ideal No, but some users and most developers could use it. > Powertop is not using such hacks and it works. Users have > started > complaining with dfevelopers and developers themselves have > taken > powerto in use. > > Can we run powertop or equivalent on the N800/Maemo? I'll let Eero answer this. -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa <igor.stoppa at nokia.com> (Nokia Multimedia - CP - OSSO / Helsinki, Finland)
