Hi, Why are you telling about the Dell driver? I told you in my last email that your regular driver works in dialup in my computer. Also, when I do pay for the full license, will you tell me how to set it up for faxing? from, David On 6/12/08, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > David, > > PLEASE read what I have already written. > There is NO substitute to the Linuxant HSF driver. > If the Dell version does not work with your kernel, you can downgrade to > match the kernel supported by the Dell version, but it is a bad idea on > many grounds as many other programs may suddenly not work. > > IF YOU PAY THE LICENSE TO LINUXANT YOUR FAX WILL WORK !!! > 20 US $ against the headache of having to match the Dell version kernel > or have no FAX - think of it. > > Click "store" at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ > > There is nothing else that we can do for you. > > Jacques > Jacques > > David Rodriguez wrote: >> Hi, Jacques and Marvin - >> >> In response to your question, yes, I did install the driver a month >> ago and dialup does work. It's slow, but that's because I need to buy >> the license to enable the full version. I understand this. >> >> And I read what you said about faxing. I still wish there was a way to >> fax under ubuntu. If you know of a way, please let me know. Thanks! >> >> From, >> David >> >> >> On 6/12/08, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> David, >>> >>> 1-PLEASE, it is enough to write to discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx . Neither Marv >>> nor myself need a second copy which arrives at the same instant. >>> >>> 2-I would really like to know if you have installed the Linuxant driver >>> matching your kernel from site http://www.linuxant.com/drivers as Marv >>> suggested in >>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg01555.html >>> >>> 3-Things like virtualbox which I do not know either, as Marv, make >>> things complicated and unlikely to work because the modem driver needs >>> to talk to the hardware and a virtual Windows running under Linux >>> **CANNOT** interfere with the Linux software controlling the same >>> hardware. >>> >>> 4-Your modem, like 99.9% of all present INTERNAL modems, is a Winmodem >>> supported under Windows and often also under Linux. A winmodem comprises >>> two parts, a small part of hardware and a heavy piece of SOFTWARE. The >>> hardware is not enough to FAX, you need the driver too. Therefore the >>> fact that your modem faxes under Windows is not a sufficient condition >>> for it to fax under Linux. Please understand that. >>> >>> 5-According to your ModemData.txt your modem belongs to the Conexant HSF >>> series supported undel Linux by the Linuxant HSF driver. This is why we >>> keep repeating to you that you have to install the Linuxant HSF driver. >>> >>> 6-If I remember well, you have tried to install the Linuxant HSF driver >>> prepared by Linuxant for Dell customers. I do not know for sure if this >>> special version works with your kernel 2.6.22-14. >>> >>> 7-The driver stored directly at Linuxant is updated and very easy to >>> install (read INSTALLATION in the HSF left menu in page >>> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers . >>> Have you tried to install it? Have you gotten any error message? Has >>> your installation succeeded? >>> >>> 8-When you install this software from Linuxant, you obtain a limited >>> version of the driver which cannot run faster than 14.4 kbauds and >>> cannot FAX. >>> You have to pay a license (about 20$) to have up to 56k full speed and >>> fax. >>> >>> 9-BEFORE trying to FAX after installing a modem, try to get connnected >>> to any ISP in yout country. You will not need a complete connection. So >>> you just need the phone number, and put anything as username and >>> password in /etc/wvdial.conf . If the driver installation is correct, >>> wvdial will call the ISP modem which will prompt you for a username and >>> then for a password, and kick you out because the username/password are >>> incorrect. This is enough to know that your modem works. >>> >>> So, please, understand that the FIRST thing to do is to install the HSF >>> driver. If there is a problem, give us ALL DETAILS. All the error >>> messages which you receive during the installation. >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >>>> David, >>>> >>>> I have no experience with virtualbox and almost none with faxing. >>>> >>>> MarvS >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM, David Rodriguez >>>> <david.x.rodriguez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> Hi, Jacques and Marvin - >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the email. Attached is the ModemData.txt that you asked. >>>>> Just to let you know, my modem is capable of faxing because I had XP >>>>> installed last year and had no problem faxing. But now, I have ubuntu >>>>> 7.10. >>>>> >>>>> I do have XP running as guest in virtualbox. Considering this, how can >>>>> I configure virtualbox to get XP to use my modem as dialup and to fax? >>>>> If you know, I'd appreciate feedback on this. Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> From, >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 6/11/08, Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> >>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:51 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>>> To: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>> Cc: Marvin Stodolsky <Marvin.Stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Yefer, >>>>>> I replied to a mail sent to me by Marv who is a big expert but clearly >>>>>> does not use his PC for faxing. >>>>>> It is with him rather than you in mind, that I wrote a pedestrian >>>>>> technical explanation of how faxing works. >>>>>> This is irrelevant for an end user like you who wants to send/receive >>>>>> faxes without becoming an expert in the software which makes this >>>>>> possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> With you in mind this time, I repeat: >>>>>> 1-Any IP relation with faxing has to be forgotten and dropped. What >>>>>> you do with IP cannot fax. This is Ok since you have at the same time >>>>>> an indepedent network connection. >>>>>> 2-Any use of the modem for IP is irrelevant to faxing and cannot be >>>>>> attempted while faxing. IP AND FAXING HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH >>>>>> OTHER. So please FORGET about modem vs IP when you want to use efax. >>>>>> 3-efax assumes that the computer is connected to a modem, the modem to >>>>>> a regular non-ADSL voice phone line, and that the modem is powered up. >>>>>> 4-Now comes the difficulty under Linux if your modem is a Winmodem. >>>>>> A Winmodem does not do all its job by hardware like true hardware >>>>>> serial external modems, but dumps part of the job to the CPU of your >>>>>> computer. The operation of the modem thus requires an additional piece >>>>>> of software named a driver. >>>>>> efax will "see" such a modem as "powered" only if the driver software >>>>>> is running. >>>>>> Furthermore, not all Linux drivers for Winmodems support the faxing >>>>>> protocole, in paticular the widely used SmartLink or equivalent >>>>>> modems. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what I meant when I wrote about the need to have the modem >>>>>> DRIVER running. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now I do not know anything about your modem. >>>>>> If it is an EXTERNAL modem connected via the 9 pins D shaped connector >>>>>> matching one of your SERIAL port, it should work without any driver. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the modem is internal to the computer or external connected to an >>>>>> USB port, it is likely but not certain that you need a driver and if >>>>>> such a driver exists it is not certain that it will support faxing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Therefore, to let me answer correctly, unless you have an external >>>>>> serial true hardware modem, you must run UNDER LINUX the scanModem >>>>>> utility and send us the file ModemData.txt which it creates. >>>>>> >>>>>> Instructions to obtain and use scanModem are found at: >>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il#scanModem >>>>>> >>>>>> I almost never use the PC for faxing because I need to FAX printed and >>>>>> graphics sheets. >>>>>> On my Dell laptop, I am the lucky owner of a Conexant winmodem for >>>>>> which the Linuxant HSF driver supports faxing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Send us ModemData.txt and we will give you further help. >>>>>> Take good note that the DRIVER is independent of the use made of the >>>>>> modem, faxing or internet. When you see, as in ModemData.txt, >>>>>> instructions to set up your modem, stop once the driver is active, >>>>>> that is, just before configuration for Internet dialling (we recommend >>>>>> to use wvdialconf for that purpose, so stop following the instructions >>>>>> just before that step). >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope that this is clear. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jacques >>>>>> >>>>>> yefer barandica wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, Jacques, thanks for your help. >>>>>>> Let's go step by step. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just want to be able of sending and receiving fax with Efax. I >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> have to stop thinking about IP and Internet. >>>>>>> I just want to send and receive faxes as I did with the program >>>>>>> Cheyenne >>>>>>> Bitware (do you know it?). Nothing to do with internet. I don't need >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use my modem to access internet. I access Internet through LAN. >>>>>>> You say: >>>>>>> Sending a FAX thus proceeds as follows: >>>>>>> 1-the modem driver, if any needed other than the built in serial, >>>>>>> must >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> running. >>>>>>> How do I know if my modem or modem driver is running? >>>>>>> Please could you tell me some commands to execute in console >>>>>>> (terminal) >>>>>>> that gives me some results that I can send to you where you can >>>>>>> analyze >>>>>>> and tell me what is wrong? >>>>>>> When I try to send a fax with Efax nothing happens and the message >>>>>>> is: >>>>>>> Socket running on port 9900 >>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:28 opened /dev/ttyS0 >>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:34 sync: dropping DTR >>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:39 sync: sending escapes >>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 Error: sync: modem not responding >>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 failed page >>>>>>> /home/yefer/efax-gtk-server/efax-gtk-server-PaDeUB.001 >>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 finished - no response from modem >>>>>>> I really appreciate your time >>>>>>> Thanks a lot >>>>>>> God bless you >>>>>>> Yefer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As far as I know. it is unfortunately not possible to send FAXes >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> an IP connexion without susbcribing to such a service - not cheap, >>>>>>> possibly worthy for a large enough business, but certainly not for a >>>>>>> casual user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sending a FAX thus proceeds as follows: >>>>>>> 1-the modem driver, if any needed other than the built in serial, >>>>>>> must >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> running. >>>>>>> 2-A string of characters (under an ad-hoc protocole) is sent to the >>>>>>> modem. >>>>>>> Even a simple cat < fax.txt > /dev/modem could do it under >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> condition that fax.txt would start with ATDT1234567 (a typical FAX >>>>>>> phone >>>>>>> number) and be followed by the protocole negotiating the connexion, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> finally by the text to be sent before final disconnect. >>>>>>> 3-There are utilities which do the job for you, such as simpler efax >>>>>>> or >>>>>>> more elaborated hylafax. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bottom line: FAX must be sent by dialling the receiving FAX machine, >>>>>>> using >>>>>>> a fax application such as efax or hylafax, not by dialling any IP >>>>>>> provider >>>>>>> service. >>>>>>> No FAX can be sent through a modem in simultaneous use for an IP >>>>>>> connection. >>>>>>> Of course this does not apply if the machine has 2 modems, one for >>>>>>> IP, >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> for FAXing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >>>>>>> > Yefer, >>>>>>> > > I am not erudite in Faxing. >>>>>>> > The attached may be useful. >>>>>>> > It was written for a different modem, but much should be >>>>>>> transferable. >>>>>>> > > Jacques, >>>>>>> > I remember your dealing with a similar case. Is it possible >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> fax >>>>>>> > without going through an IP Login? >>>>>>> > > MarvS >>>>>>> > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM, yefer barandica >>>>>>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >> Hi Marvs >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> I don't need my modem to access internet. I need it to send >>>>>>> faxes >>>>>>> through >>>>>>> >> phone line. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Thanks again >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> --- El mié 4-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky >>>>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> escribió: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> De: Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel >>>>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>>>> >> A: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >> Fecha: miércoles, 4 junio, 2008, 6:38 pm >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> yefer, >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Your situation is not clear to me. >>>>>>> >> The role of modem configuration files are to successively: >>>>>>> >> Dial an Internet Provider (IP) phone number >>>>>>> >> Login with a UserName and Password >>>>>>> >> Accept addresses of the IP's Domain Name Services >>>>>>> >> Start PPP services >>>>>>> >> After which you can browse and do other Internet Services. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> How do you plan to access the IP, without dialing his phone >>>>>>> number? >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> If you have some internal/home IP, you still have to use >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> number >>>>>>> >> like 0 or perhaps 9, to open the modem to the active >>>>>>> circuit. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> MarvS >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:29 PM, yefer barandica >>>>>>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>> ¿What if there is not a Internet service provider phone >>>>>>> number? >>>>>>> As I >>>>>>> >> already >>>>>>> >>> said there is not a number I or the system have to dial >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> navigate in >>>>>>> >>> Internet. Can I leave that space (phone) in blank, I >>>>>>> mean, >>>>>>> put >>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>> >>> there? >>>>>>> >>> Thanks again for your help >>>>>>> >>> Yefer >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> --- El mié 4-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky >>>>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >> escribió: >>>>>>> >>> De: Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel >>>>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>>>> >>> A: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>> Fecha: miércoles, 4 junio, 2008, 6:44 am >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Yefer >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Edit the 3 lines of >>>>>>> >>> /etc/wvdial.conf >>>>>>> >>> beginning with ; , removin the ; < > symbols >>>>>>> >>> Use the internet provider phone number. Edit with: >>>>>>> >>> $ sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Dialout is then done with: >>>>>>> >>> $ sudo wdial >>>>>>> >>> which accesses /etc/wvdial.conf >>>>>>> >>> in settting up the ppp0 channel for COMM >>>>>>> >>> Make sure you can do a simple dialout before trying fax. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> Shut down LAN function COMM >>>>>>> >>> $ sudo ifdown eth0 >>>>>>> >>> before trying a dialout, or browser navigation will >>>>>>> fail, >>>>>>> because >>>>>>> ppp0 >>>>>>> >>> will try and fail to use the LAN settings >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> For efax, check with that List. Often these cheap >>>>>>> consumer >>>>>>> modems >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> >>> not reliabe with fax. >>>>>>> >>> You might have to buy a Controller Chipset modem for fax >>>>>>> services >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> >>> the agrmodem+agrrserial is not effective. I don't have >>>>>>> fax >>>>>>> expertise. >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> MarvS >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:00 PM, yefer barandica >>>>>>> >> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>> Hi Marvs, thanks a lot for your help and >>>>>>> instructions. >>>>>>> >>>> I have used >>>>>>> >>> the file you send me (agrsm_howto.txt) in my job of >>>>>>> trying >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>> make my modem works. >>>>>>> >>>> Everything goes right but I have a doubt: >>>>>>> >>>> Do I definitively have to edit the file wvdial.conf? >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> mean, I >>>>>>> connect >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >>>> internet through LAN and not through modem. I'm a >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> confuse. >>>>>>> >>> ¿What >>>>>>> >>>> "phone" is that file talking about? My phone number >>>>>>> or an >>>>>>> >>> internet provider >>>>>>> >>>> phone number? I need at this moment my modem to send >>>>>>> faxes and >>>>>>> not to >>>>>>> >>>> connect to internet. Is it the same with "login" and >>>>>>> >>> "password"? Is it >>>>>>> >>>> talking about things related with an internet >>>>>>> service >>>>>>> provider? >>>>>>> >>>> I apologize about my English and I hope you have >>>>>>> understand >>>>>>> me. >>>>>>> >>>> Thanks a lot again. >>>>>>> >>>> Yefer >>>>>>> >>>> By the way, the file agrsm_howto.txt says >>>>>>> >>>> This instruction set was provided by Hugo Canilli. >>>>>>> He >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> thus >>>>>>> had >>>>>>> >> success >>>>>>> >>>> with this AGRSM code requiring modem, under Linuxes: >>>>>>> Ubuntu >>>>>>> versions >>>>>>> >> 6.10, >>>>>>> >>> 7.04, 7.10 and slackware 12.0. Marv Stodolsky lightly >>>>>>> edited >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> text. >>>>>>> >>>> My Ubuntu is 8.04 - Hardy Heron, I downloaded one >>>>>>> day >>>>>>> before >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>> definitive >>>>>>> >>>> version was launched. >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> 00) Be sure than kernel headers are installed. Under >>>>>>> Ubuntu, >>>>>>> >>>> they are provided by a package pair with name format >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> >>>> linux-headers-2.6.22-14 >>>>>>> linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic >>>>>>> >>>> with 2.6.22-14-generic being the boot kernel version >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> All the files headers I found in my sistem are >>>>>>> 2.6.24.... >>>>>>> >>>> But I have follow the instructions of the file and >>>>>>> everythng >>>>>>> goes >>>>>>> >> right. >>>>>>> >>>> Please help me cause I need to send fax with >>>>>>> eFax-gtk. >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> --- El mar 3-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky >>>>>>> >> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>> escribió: >>>>>>> >>>> De: Marvin Stodolsky >>>>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>>> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel >>>>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>>>> >>>> A: "yefer barandica" >>>>>>> >>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>, "Jacques >>>>>>> >>> Goldberg" >>>>>>> >>>> <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>>> Fecha: martes, 3 junio, 2008, 2:07 pm >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> Yefer >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> AGRSM - At >>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/sv92/ , >>>>>>> >>>> the agrsm-20080203.tar.gz >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> Under Linux unpack with: >>>>>>> >>>> $ tar zxf agr*.tar.gz >>>>>>> >>>> Read the files therein and the attached >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> jacques >>>>>>> >>>> put the agrsm_howto.txt into the >>>>>>> >>>> folder >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/sv92/ >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> MarvS >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> MarvS >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:53 PM, yefer barandica >>>>>>> >> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! 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