Hi, Jacques and Marvin - In response to your question, yes, I did install the driver a month ago and dialup does work. It's slow, but that's because I need to buy the license to enable the full version. I understand this. And I read what you said about faxing. I still wish there was a way to fax under ubuntu. If you know of a way, please let me know. Thanks! From, David On 6/12/08, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote: > David, > > 1-PLEASE, it is enough to write to discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx . Neither Marv > nor myself need a second copy which arrives at the same instant. > > 2-I would really like to know if you have installed the Linuxant driver > matching your kernel from site http://www.linuxant.com/drivers as Marv > suggested in > http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg01555.html > > 3-Things like virtualbox which I do not know either, as Marv, make > things complicated and unlikely to work because the modem driver needs > to talk to the hardware and a virtual Windows running under Linux > **CANNOT** interfere with the Linux software controlling the same hardware. > > 4-Your modem, like 99.9% of all present INTERNAL modems, is a Winmodem > supported under Windows and often also under Linux. A winmodem comprises > two parts, a small part of hardware and a heavy piece of SOFTWARE. The > hardware is not enough to FAX, you need the driver too. Therefore the > fact that your modem faxes under Windows is not a sufficient condition > for it to fax under Linux. Please understand that. > > 5-According to your ModemData.txt your modem belongs to the Conexant HSF > series supported undel Linux by the Linuxant HSF driver. This is why we > keep repeating to you that you have to install the Linuxant HSF driver. > > 6-If I remember well, you have tried to install the Linuxant HSF driver > prepared by Linuxant for Dell customers. I do not know for sure if this > special version works with your kernel 2.6.22-14. > > 7-The driver stored directly at Linuxant is updated and very easy to > install (read INSTALLATION in the HSF left menu in page > http://www.linuxant.com/drivers . > Have you tried to install it? Have you gotten any error message? Has > your installation succeeded? > > 8-When you install this software from Linuxant, you obtain a limited > version of the driver which cannot run faster than 14.4 kbauds and > cannot FAX. > You have to pay a license (about 20$) to have up to 56k full speed and fax. > > 9-BEFORE trying to FAX after installing a modem, try to get connnected > to any ISP in yout country. You will not need a complete connection. So > you just need the phone number, and put anything as username and > password in /etc/wvdial.conf . If the driver installation is correct, > wvdial will call the ISP modem which will prompt you for a username and > then for a password, and kick you out because the username/password are > incorrect. This is enough to know that your modem works. > > So, please, understand that the FIRST thing to do is to install the HSF > driver. If there is a problem, give us ALL DETAILS. All the error > messages which you receive during the installation. > > Jacques > > Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >> David, >> >> I have no experience with virtualbox and almost none with faxing. >> >> MarvS >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM, David Rodriguez >> <david.x.rodriguez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Hi, Jacques and Marvin - >>> >>> Thanks for the email. Attached is the ModemData.txt that you asked. >>> Just to let you know, my modem is capable of faxing because I had XP >>> installed last year and had no problem faxing. But now, I have ubuntu >>> 7.10. >>> >>> I do have XP running as guest in virtualbox. Considering this, how can >>> I configure virtualbox to get XP to use my modem as dialup and to fax? >>> If you know, I'd appreciate feedback on this. Thanks. >>> >>> From, >>> David >>> >>> >>> On 6/11/08, Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> >>>> Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:51 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel 2.6.24-17-generic >>>> To: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx >>>> Cc: Marvin Stodolsky <Marvin.Stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yefer, >>>> I replied to a mail sent to me by Marv who is a big expert but clearly >>>> does not use his PC for faxing. >>>> It is with him rather than you in mind, that I wrote a pedestrian >>>> technical explanation of how faxing works. >>>> This is irrelevant for an end user like you who wants to send/receive >>>> faxes without becoming an expert in the software which makes this >>>> possible. >>>> >>>> With you in mind this time, I repeat: >>>> 1-Any IP relation with faxing has to be forgotten and dropped. What >>>> you do with IP cannot fax. This is Ok since you have at the same time >>>> an indepedent network connection. >>>> 2-Any use of the modem for IP is irrelevant to faxing and cannot be >>>> attempted while faxing. IP AND FAXING HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH >>>> OTHER. So please FORGET about modem vs IP when you want to use efax. >>>> 3-efax assumes that the computer is connected to a modem, the modem to >>>> a regular non-ADSL voice phone line, and that the modem is powered up. >>>> 4-Now comes the difficulty under Linux if your modem is a Winmodem. >>>> A Winmodem does not do all its job by hardware like true hardware >>>> serial external modems, but dumps part of the job to the CPU of your >>>> computer. The operation of the modem thus requires an additional piece >>>> of software named a driver. >>>> efax will "see" such a modem as "powered" only if the driver software >>>> is running. >>>> Furthermore, not all Linux drivers for Winmodems support the faxing >>>> protocole, in paticular the widely used SmartLink or equivalent >>>> modems. >>>> >>>> This is what I meant when I wrote about the need to have the modem >>>> DRIVER running. >>>> >>>> Now I do not know anything about your modem. >>>> If it is an EXTERNAL modem connected via the 9 pins D shaped connector >>>> matching one of your SERIAL port, it should work without any driver. >>>> >>>> If the modem is internal to the computer or external connected to an >>>> USB port, it is likely but not certain that you need a driver and if >>>> such a driver exists it is not certain that it will support faxing. >>>> >>>> Therefore, to let me answer correctly, unless you have an external >>>> serial true hardware modem, you must run UNDER LINUX the scanModem >>>> utility and send us the file ModemData.txt which it creates. >>>> >>>> Instructions to obtain and use scanModem are found at: >>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il#scanModem >>>> >>>> I almost never use the PC for faxing because I need to FAX printed and >>>> graphics sheets. >>>> On my Dell laptop, I am the lucky owner of a Conexant winmodem for >>>> which the Linuxant HSF driver supports faxing. >>>> >>>> Send us ModemData.txt and we will give you further help. >>>> Take good note that the DRIVER is independent of the use made of the >>>> modem, faxing or internet. When you see, as in ModemData.txt, >>>> instructions to set up your modem, stop once the driver is active, >>>> that is, just before configuration for Internet dialling (we recommend >>>> to use wvdialconf for that purpose, so stop following the instructions >>>> just before that step). >>>> >>>> I hope that this is clear. >>>> >>>> Jacques >>>> >>>> yefer barandica wrote: >>>>> Hi, Jacques, thanks for your help. >>>>> Let's go step by step. >>>>> >>>>> I just want to be able of sending and receiving fax with Efax. I think >>>>> we >>>>> have to stop thinking about IP and Internet. >>>>> I just want to send and receive faxes as I did with the program >>>>> Cheyenne >>>>> Bitware (do you know it?). Nothing to do with internet. I don't need to >>>>> use my modem to access internet. I access Internet through LAN. >>>>> You say: >>>>> Sending a FAX thus proceeds as follows: >>>>> 1-the modem driver, if any needed other than the built in serial, must >>>>> be >>>>> running. >>>>> How do I know if my modem or modem driver is running? >>>>> Please could you tell me some commands to execute in console (terminal) >>>>> that gives me some results that I can send to you where you can analyze >>>>> and tell me what is wrong? >>>>> When I try to send a fax with Efax nothing happens and the message is: >>>>> Socket running on port 9900 >>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:28 opened /dev/ttyS0 >>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:34 sync: dropping DTR >>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:39 sync: sending escapes >>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 Error: sync: modem not responding >>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 failed page >>>>> /home/yefer/efax-gtk-server/efax-gtk-server-PaDeUB.001 >>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 finished - no response from modem >>>>> I really appreciate your time >>>>> Thanks a lot >>>>> God bless you >>>>> Yefer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as I know. it is unfortunately not possible to send FAXes >>>>> through >>>>> an IP connexion without susbcribing to such a service - not cheap, >>>>> possibly worthy for a large enough business, but certainly not for a >>>>> casual user. >>>>> >>>>> Sending a FAX thus proceeds as follows: >>>>> 1-the modem driver, if any needed other than the built in serial, must >>>>> be >>>>> running. >>>>> 2-A string of characters (under an ad-hoc protocole) is sent to the >>>>> modem. >>>>> Even a simple cat < fax.txt > /dev/modem could do it under >>>>> the >>>>> condition that fax.txt would start with ATDT1234567 (a typical FAX >>>>> phone >>>>> number) and be followed by the protocole negotiating the connexion, and >>>>> finally by the text to be sent before final disconnect. >>>>> 3-There are utilities which do the job for you, such as simpler efax or >>>>> more elaborated hylafax. >>>>> >>>>> Bottom line: FAX must be sent by dialling the receiving FAX machine, >>>>> using >>>>> a fax application such as efax or hylafax, not by dialling any IP >>>>> provider >>>>> service. >>>>> No FAX can be sent through a modem in simultaneous use for an IP >>>>> connection. >>>>> Of course this does not apply if the machine has 2 modems, one for IP, >>>>> one >>>>> for FAXing. >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> Marvin Stodolsky wrote: >>>>> > Yefer, >>>>> > > I am not erudite in Faxing. >>>>> > The attached may be useful. >>>>> > It was written for a different modem, but much should be >>>>> transferable. >>>>> > > Jacques, >>>>> > I remember your dealing with a similar case. Is it possible to >>>>> fax >>>>> > without going through an IP Login? >>>>> > > MarvS >>>>> > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM, yefer barandica >>>>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> Hi Marvs >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I don't need my modem to access internet. I need it to send >>>>> faxes >>>>> through >>>>> >> phone line. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thanks again >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --- El mié 4-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky >>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> escribió: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> De: Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel >>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>> >> A: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >> Fecha: miércoles, 4 junio, 2008, 6:38 pm >>>>> >> >>>>> >> yefer, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Your situation is not clear to me. >>>>> >> The role of modem configuration files are to successively: >>>>> >> Dial an Internet Provider (IP) phone number >>>>> >> Login with a UserName and Password >>>>> >> Accept addresses of the IP's Domain Name Services >>>>> >> Start PPP services >>>>> >> After which you can browse and do other Internet Services. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> How do you plan to access the IP, without dialing his phone >>>>> number? >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If you have some internal/home IP, you still have to use some >>>>> number >>>>> >> like 0 or perhaps 9, to open the modem to the active circuit. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> MarvS >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:29 PM, yefer barandica >>>>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> wrote: >>>>> >>> ¿What if there is not a Internet service provider phone >>>>> number? >>>>> As I >>>>> >> already >>>>> >>> said there is not a number I or the system have to dial to >>>>> navigate in >>>>> >>> Internet. Can I leave that space (phone) in blank, I mean, >>>>> put >>>>> nothing >>>>> >>> there? >>>>> >>> Thanks again for your help >>>>> >>> Yefer >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> --- El mié 4-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky >>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> escribió: >>>>> >>> De: Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >>> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel >>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>> >>> A: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>> Fecha: miércoles, 4 junio, 2008, 6:44 am >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Yefer >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Edit the 3 lines of >>>>> >>> /etc/wvdial.conf >>>>> >>> beginning with ; , removin the ; < > symbols >>>>> >>> Use the internet provider phone number. Edit with: >>>>> >>> $ sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Dialout is then done with: >>>>> >>> $ sudo wdial >>>>> >>> which accesses /etc/wvdial.conf >>>>> >>> in settting up the ppp0 channel for COMM >>>>> >>> Make sure you can do a simple dialout before trying fax. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Shut down LAN function COMM >>>>> >>> $ sudo ifdown eth0 >>>>> >>> before trying a dialout, or browser navigation will fail, >>>>> because >>>>> ppp0 >>>>> >>> will try and fail to use the LAN settings >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> For efax, check with that List. Often these cheap consumer >>>>> modems >>>>> are >>>>> >>> not reliabe with fax. >>>>> >>> You might have to buy a Controller Chipset modem for fax >>>>> services >>>>> if >>>>> >>> the agrmodem+agrrserial is not effective. I don't have >>>>> fax >>>>> expertise. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> MarvS >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:00 PM, yefer barandica >>>>> >> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>> Hi Marvs, thanks a lot for your help and instructions. >>>>> >>>> I have used >>>>> >>> the file you send me (agrsm_howto.txt) in my job of >>>>> trying >>>>> to >>>>> >>>> make my modem works. >>>>> >>>> Everything goes right but I have a doubt: >>>>> >>>> Do I definitively have to edit the file wvdial.conf? I >>>>> mean, I >>>>> connect >>>>> >> to >>>>> >>>> internet through LAN and not through modem. I'm a >>>>> little >>>>> confuse. >>>>> >>> ¿What >>>>> >>>> "phone" is that file talking about? My phone number >>>>> or an >>>>> >>> internet provider >>>>> >>>> phone number? I need at this moment my modem to send >>>>> faxes and >>>>> not to >>>>> >>>> connect to internet. Is it the same with "login" and >>>>> >>> "password"? Is it >>>>> >>>> talking about things related with an internet service >>>>> provider? >>>>> >>>> I apologize about my English and I hope you have >>>>> understand >>>>> me. >>>>> >>>> Thanks a lot again. >>>>> >>>> Yefer >>>>> >>>> By the way, the file agrsm_howto.txt says >>>>> >>>> This instruction set was provided by Hugo Canilli. He >>>>> has >>>>> thus >>>>> had >>>>> >> success >>>>> >>>> with this AGRSM code requiring modem, under Linuxes: >>>>> Ubuntu >>>>> versions >>>>> >> 6.10, >>>>> >>> 7.04, 7.10 and slackware 12.0. Marv Stodolsky lightly >>>>> edited >>>>> the >>>>> text. >>>>> >>>> My Ubuntu is 8.04 - Hardy Heron, I downloaded one day >>>>> before >>>>> the >>>>> >>> definitive >>>>> >>>> version was launched. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> 00) Be sure than kernel headers are installed. Under >>>>> Ubuntu, >>>>> >>>> they are provided by a package pair with name format >>>>> like >>>>> >>>> linux-headers-2.6.22-14 >>>>> linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic >>>>> >>>> with 2.6.22-14-generic being the boot kernel version >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> All the files headers I found in my sistem are >>>>> 2.6.24.... >>>>> >>>> But I have follow the instructions of the file and >>>>> everythng >>>>> goes >>>>> >> right. >>>>> >>>> Please help me cause I need to send fax with eFax-gtk. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> --- El mar 3-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky >>>>> >> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >>> escribió: >>>>> >>>> De: Marvin Stodolsky >>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >>>> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel >>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic >>>>> >>>> A: "yefer barandica" >>>>> >>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>, "Jacques >>>>> >>> Goldberg" >>>>> >>>> <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> >>>>> >>>> Fecha: martes, 3 junio, 2008, 2:07 pm >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Yefer >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> AGRSM - At >>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/sv92/ , >>>>> >>>> the agrsm-20080203.tar.gz >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Under Linux unpack with: >>>>> >>>> $ tar zxf agr*.tar.gz >>>>> >>>> Read the files therein and the attached >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> jacques >>>>> >>>> put the agrsm_howto.txt into the >>>>> >>>> folder >>>>> >>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/sv92/ >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> MarvS >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> MarvS >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:53 PM, yefer barandica >>>>> >> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! 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