David, We are not experts on faxing. Check with the Linux efax List.We mostly guide new users to the correct modem drivers, which faxsoftware will then work through. MarvS On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:51 PM, David Rodriguez<david.x.rodriguez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> Hi,>> Why are you telling about the Dell driver? I told you in my last email> that your regular driver works in dialup in my computer.>> Also, when I do pay for the full license, will you tell me how to set> it up for faxing?>> from,> David>>> On 6/12/08, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote:>> David,>>>> PLEASE read what I have already written.>> There is NO substitute to the Linuxant HSF driver.>> If the Dell version does not work with your kernel, you can downgrade to>> match the kernel supported by the Dell version, but it is a bad idea on>> many grounds as many other programs may suddenly not work.>>>> IF YOU PAY THE LICENSE TO LINUXANT YOUR FAX WILL WORK !!!>> 20 US $ against the headache of having to match the Dell version kernel>> or have no FAX - think of it.>>>> Click "store" at http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/>>>> There is nothing else that we can do for you.>>>> Jacques>> Jacques>>>> David Rodriguez wrote:>>> Hi, Jacques and Marvin ->>>>>> In response to your question, yes, I did install the driver a month>>> ago and dialup does work. It's slow, but that's because I need to buy>>> the license to enable the full version. I understand this.>>>>>> And I read what you said about faxing. I still wish there was a way to>>> fax under ubuntu. If you know of a way, please let me know. Thanks!>>>>>> From,>>> David>>>>>>>>> On 6/12/08, Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx> wrote:>>>> David,>>>>>>>> 1-PLEASE, it is enough to write to discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx . Neither Marv>>>> nor myself need a second copy which arrives at the same instant.>>>>>>>> 2-I would really like to know if you have installed the Linuxant driver>>>> matching your kernel from site http://www.linuxant.com/drivers as Marv>>>> suggested in>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/bigarch/archive-eighth/msg01555.html>>>>>>>> 3-Things like virtualbox which I do not know either, as Marv, make>>>> things complicated and unlikely to work because the modem driver needs>>>> to talk to the hardware and a virtual Windows running under Linux>>>> **CANNOT** interfere with the Linux software controlling the same>>>> hardware.>>>>>>>> 4-Your modem, like 99.9% of all present INTERNAL modems, is a Winmodem>>>> supported under Windows and often also under Linux. A winmodem comprises>>>> two parts, a small part of hardware and a heavy piece of SOFTWARE. The>>>> hardware is not enough to FAX, you need the driver too. Therefore the>>>> fact that your modem faxes under Windows is not a sufficient condition>>>> for it to fax under Linux. Please understand that.>>>>>>>> 5-According to your ModemData.txt your modem belongs to the Conexant HSF>>>> series supported undel Linux by the Linuxant HSF driver. This is why we>>>> keep repeating to you that you have to install the Linuxant HSF driver.>>>>>>>> 6-If I remember well, you have tried to install the Linuxant HSF driver>>>> prepared by Linuxant for Dell customers. I do not know for sure if this>>>> special version works with your kernel 2.6.22-14.>>>>>>>> 7-The driver stored directly at Linuxant is updated and very easy to>>>> install (read INSTALLATION in the HSF left menu in page>>>> http://www.linuxant.com/drivers .>>>> Have you tried to install it? Have you gotten any error message? Has>>>> your installation succeeded?>>>>>>>> 8-When you install this software from Linuxant, you obtain a limited>>>> version of the driver which cannot run faster than 14.4 kbauds and>>>> cannot FAX.>>>> You have to pay a license (about 20$) to have up to 56k full speed and>>>> fax.>>>>>>>> 9-BEFORE trying to FAX after installing a modem, try to get connnected>>>> to any ISP in yout country. You will not need a complete connection. So>>>> you just need the phone number, and put anything as username and>>>> password in /etc/wvdial.conf . If the driver installation is correct,>>>> wvdial will call the ISP modem which will prompt you for a username and>>>> then for a password, and kick you out because the username/password are>>>> incorrect. This is enough to know that your modem works.>>>>>>>> So, please, understand that the FIRST thing to do is to install the HSF>>>> driver. If there is a problem, give us ALL DETAILS. All the error>>>> messages which you receive during the installation.>>>>>>>> Jacques>>>>>>>> Marvin Stodolsky wrote:>>>>> David,>>>>>>>>>> I have no experience with virtualbox and almost none with faxing.>>>>>>>>>> MarvS>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:51 PM, David Rodriguez>>>>> <david.x.rodriguez@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>>> Hi, Jacques and Marvin ->>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the email. Attached is the ModemData.txt that you asked.>>>>>> Just to let you know, my modem is capable of faxing because I had XP>>>>>> installed last year and had no problem faxing. But now, I have ubuntu>>>>>> 7.10.>>>>>>>>>>>> I do have XP running as guest in virtualbox. Considering this, how can>>>>>> I configure virtualbox to get XP to use my modem as dialup and to fax?>>>>>> If you know, I'd appreciate feedback on this. Thanks.>>>>>>>>>>>> From,>>>>>> David>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/11/08, Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------->>>>>>> From: Jacques Goldberg <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 11:51 AM>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel 2.6.24-17-generic>>>>>>> To: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>> Cc: Marvin Stodolsky <Marvin.Stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yefer,>>>>>>> I replied to a mail sent to me by Marv who is a big expert but clearly>>>>>>> does not use his PC for faxing.>>>>>>> It is with him rather than you in mind, that I wrote a pedestrian>>>>>>> technical explanation of how faxing works.>>>>>>> This is irrelevant for an end user like you who wants to send/receive>>>>>>> faxes without becoming an expert in the software which makes this>>>>>>> possible.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With you in mind this time, I repeat:>>>>>>> 1-Any IP relation with faxing has to be forgotten and dropped. What>>>>>>> you do with IP cannot fax. This is Ok since you have at the same time>>>>>>> an indepedent network connection.>>>>>>> 2-Any use of the modem for IP is irrelevant to faxing and cannot be>>>>>>> attempted while faxing. IP AND FAXING HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EACH>>>>>>> OTHER. So please FORGET about modem vs IP when you want to use efax.>>>>>>> 3-efax assumes that the computer is connected to a modem, the modem to>>>>>>> a regular non-ADSL voice phone line, and that the modem is powered up.>>>>>>> 4-Now comes the difficulty under Linux if your modem is a Winmodem.>>>>>>> A Winmodem does not do all its job by hardware like true hardware>>>>>>> serial external modems, but dumps part of the job to the CPU of your>>>>>>> computer. The operation of the modem thus requires an additional piece>>>>>>> of software named a driver.>>>>>>> efax will "see" such a modem as "powered" only if the driver software>>>>>>> is running.>>>>>>> Furthermore, not all Linux drivers for Winmodems support the faxing>>>>>>> protocole, in paticular the widely used SmartLink or equivalent>>>>>>> modems.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is what I meant when I wrote about the need to have the modem>>>>>>> DRIVER running.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now I do not know anything about your modem.>>>>>>> If it is an EXTERNAL modem connected via the 9 pins D shaped connector>>>>>>> matching one of your SERIAL port, it should work without any driver.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the modem is internal to the computer or external connected to an>>>>>>> USB port, it is likely but not certain that you need a driver and if>>>>>>> such a driver exists it is not certain that it will support faxing.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore, to let me answer correctly, unless you have an external>>>>>>> serial true hardware modem, you must run UNDER LINUX the scanModem>>>>>>> utility and send us the file ModemData.txt which it creates.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instructions to obtain and use scanModem are found at:>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il#scanModem>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I almost never use the PC for faxing because I need to FAX printed and>>>>>>> graphics sheets.>>>>>>> On my Dell laptop, I am the lucky owner of a Conexant winmodem for>>>>>>> which the Linuxant HSF driver supports faxing.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send us ModemData.txt and we will give you further help.>>>>>>> Take good note that the DRIVER is independent of the use made of the>>>>>>> modem, faxing or internet. When you see, as in ModemData.txt,>>>>>>> instructions to set up your modem, stop once the driver is active,>>>>>>> that is, just before configuration for Internet dialling (we recommend>>>>>>> to use wvdialconf for that purpose, so stop following the instructions>>>>>>> just before that step).>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that this is clear.>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yefer barandica wrote:>>>>>>>> Hi, Jacques, thanks for your help.>>>>>>>> Let's go step by step.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to be able of sending and receiving fax with Efax. I>>>>>>>> think>>>>>>>> we>>>>>>>> have to stop thinking about IP and Internet.>>>>>>>> I just want to send and receive faxes as I did with the program>>>>>>>> Cheyenne>>>>>>>> Bitware (do you know it?). Nothing to do with internet. I don't need>>>>>>>> to>>>>>>>> use my modem to access internet. I access Internet through LAN.>>>>>>>> You say:>>>>>>>> Sending a FAX thus proceeds as follows:>>>>>>>> 1-the modem driver, if any needed other than the built in serial,>>>>>>>> must>>>>>>>> be>>>>>>>> running.>>>>>>>> How do I know if my modem or modem driver is running?>>>>>>>> Please could you tell me some commands to execute in console>>>>>>>> (terminal)>>>>>>>> that gives me some results that I can send to you where you can>>>>>>>> analyze>>>>>>>> and tell me what is wrong?>>>>>>>> When I try to send a fax with Efax nothing happens and the message>>>>>>>> is:>>>>>>>> Socket running on port 9900>>>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:28 opened /dev/ttyS0>>>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:34 sync: dropping DTR>>>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:39 sync: sending escapes>>>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 Error: sync: modem not responding>>>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 failed page>>>>>>>> /home/yefer/efax-gtk-server/efax-gtk-server-PaDeUB.001>>>>>>>> efax-0.9a: 10:05:44 finished - no response from modem>>>>>>>> I really appreciate your time>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot>>>>>>>> God bless you>>>>>>>> Yefer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know. it is unfortunately not possible to send FAXes>>>>>>>> through>>>>>>>> an IP connexion without susbcribing to such a service - not cheap,>>>>>>>> possibly worthy for a large enough business, but certainly not for a>>>>>>>> casual user.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sending a FAX thus proceeds as follows:>>>>>>>> 1-the modem driver, if any needed other than the built in serial,>>>>>>>> must>>>>>>>> be>>>>>>>> running.>>>>>>>> 2-A string of characters (under an ad-hoc protocole) is sent to the>>>>>>>> modem.>>>>>>>> Even a simple cat < fax.txt > /dev/modem could do it under>>>>>>>> the>>>>>>>> condition that fax.txt would start with ATDT1234567 (a typical FAX>>>>>>>> phone>>>>>>>> number) and be followed by the protocole negotiating the connexion,>>>>>>>> and>>>>>>>> finally by the text to be sent before final disconnect.>>>>>>>> 3-There are utilities which do the job for you, such as simpler efax>>>>>>>> or>>>>>>>> more elaborated hylafax.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom line: FAX must be sent by dialling the receiving FAX machine,>>>>>>>> using>>>>>>>> a fax application such as efax or hylafax, not by dialling any IP>>>>>>>> provider>>>>>>>> service.>>>>>>>> No FAX can be sent through a modem in simultaneous use for an IP>>>>>>>> connection.>>>>>>>> Of course this does not apply if the machine has 2 modems, one for>>>>>>>> IP,>>>>>>>> one>>>>>>>> for FAXing.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacques>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvin Stodolsky wrote:>>>>>>>> > Yefer,>>>>>>>> > > I am not erudite in Faxing.>>>>>>>> > The attached may be useful.>>>>>>>> > It was written for a different modem, but much should be>>>>>>>> transferable.>>>>>>>> > > Jacques,>>>>>>>> > I remember your dealing with a similar case. Is it possible>>>>>>>> to>>>>>>>> fax>>>>>>>> > without going through an IP Login?>>>>>>>> > > MarvS>>>>>>>> > > > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 7:42 PM, yefer barandica>>>>>>>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> >> Hi Marvs>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> I don't need my modem to access internet. I need it to send>>>>>>>> faxes>>>>>>>> through>>>>>>>> >> phone line.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks again>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> --- El mié 4-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky>>>>>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx> escribió:>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> De: Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel>>>>>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic>>>>>>>> >> A: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>> >> Fecha: miércoles, 4 junio, 2008, 6:38 pm>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> yefer,>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> Your situation is not clear to me.>>>>>>>> >> The role of modem configuration files are to successively:>>>>>>>> >> Dial an Internet Provider (IP) phone number>>>>>>>> >> Login with a UserName and Password>>>>>>>> >> Accept addresses of the IP's Domain Name Services>>>>>>>> >> Start PPP services>>>>>>>> >> After which you can browse and do other Internet Services.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> How do you plan to access the IP, without dialing his phone>>>>>>>> number?>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> If you have some internal/home IP, you still have to use>>>>>>>> some>>>>>>>> number>>>>>>>> >> like 0 or perhaps 9, to open the modem to the active>>>>>>>> circuit.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> MarvS>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:29 PM, yefer barandica>>>>>>>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >> wrote:>>>>>>>> >>> ¿What if there is not a Internet service provider phone>>>>>>>> number?>>>>>>>> As I>>>>>>>> >> already>>>>>>>> >>> said there is not a number I or the system have to dial>>>>>>>> to>>>>>>>> navigate in>>>>>>>> >>> Internet. Can I leave that space (phone) in blank, I>>>>>>>> mean,>>>>>>>> put>>>>>>>> nothing>>>>>>>> >>> there?>>>>>>>> >>> Thanks again for your help>>>>>>>> >>> Yefer>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> --- El mié 4-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky>>>>>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >> escribió:>>>>>>>> >>> De: Marvin Stodolsky <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >>> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel>>>>>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic>>>>>>>> >>> A: yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>> >>> Fecha: miércoles, 4 junio, 2008, 6:44 am>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Yefer>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Edit the 3 lines of>>>>>>>> >>> /etc/wvdial.conf>>>>>>>> >>> beginning with ; , removin the ; < > symbols>>>>>>>> >>> Use the internet provider phone number. Edit with:>>>>>>>> >>> $ sudo gedit /etc/wvdial.conf>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Dialout is then done with:>>>>>>>> >>> $ sudo wdial>>>>>>>> >>> which accesses /etc/wvdial.conf>>>>>>>> >>> in settting up the ppp0 channel for COMM>>>>>>>> >>> Make sure you can do a simple dialout before trying fax.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> Shut down LAN function COMM>>>>>>>> >>> $ sudo ifdown eth0>>>>>>>> >>> before trying a dialout, or browser navigation will>>>>>>>> fail,>>>>>>>> because>>>>>>>> ppp0>>>>>>>> >>> will try and fail to use the LAN settings>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> For efax, check with that List. Often these cheap>>>>>>>> consumer>>>>>>>> modems>>>>>>>> are>>>>>>>> >>> not reliabe with fax.>>>>>>>> >>> You might have to buy a Controller Chipset modem for fax>>>>>>>> services>>>>>>>> if>>>>>>>> >>> the agrmodem+agrrserial is not effective. I don't have>>>>>>>> fax>>>>>>>> expertise.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> MarvS>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:00 PM, yefer barandica>>>>>>>> >> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >>> wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>> Hi Marvs, thanks a lot for your help and>>>>>>>> instructions.>>>>>>>> >>>> I have used>>>>>>>> >>> the file you send me (agrsm_howto.txt) in my job of>>>>>>>> trying>>>>>>>> to>>>>>>>> >>>> make my modem works.>>>>>>>> >>>> Everything goes right but I have a doubt:>>>>>>>> >>>> Do I definitively have to edit the file wvdial.conf?>>>>>>>> I>>>>>>>> mean, I>>>>>>>> connect>>>>>>>> >> to>>>>>>>> >>>> internet through LAN and not through modem. I'm a>>>>>>>> little>>>>>>>> confuse.>>>>>>>> >>> ¿What>>>>>>>> >>>> "phone" is that file talking about? My phone number>>>>>>>> or an>>>>>>>> >>> internet provider>>>>>>>> >>>> phone number? I need at this moment my modem to send>>>>>>>> faxes and>>>>>>>> not to>>>>>>>> >>>> connect to internet. Is it the same with "login" and>>>>>>>> >>> "password"? Is it>>>>>>>> >>>> talking about things related with an internet>>>>>>>> service>>>>>>>> provider?>>>>>>>> >>>> I apologize about my English and I hope you have>>>>>>>> understand>>>>>>>> me.>>>>>>>> >>>> Thanks a lot again.>>>>>>>> >>>> Yefer>>>>>>>> >>>> By the way, the file agrsm_howto.txt says>>>>>>>> >>>> This instruction set was provided by Hugo Canilli.>>>>>>>> He>>>>>>>> has>>>>>>>> thus>>>>>>>> had>>>>>>>> >> success>>>>>>>> >>>> with this AGRSM code requiring modem, under Linuxes:>>>>>>>> Ubuntu>>>>>>>> versions>>>>>>>> >> 6.10,>>>>>>>> >>> 7.04, 7.10 and slackware 12.0. Marv Stodolsky lightly>>>>>>>> edited>>>>>>>> the>>>>>>>> text.>>>>>>>> >>>> My Ubuntu is 8.04 - Hardy Heron, I downloaded one>>>>>>>> day>>>>>>>> before>>>>>>>> the>>>>>>>> >>> definitive>>>>>>>> >>>> version was launched.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> 00) Be sure than kernel headers are installed. Under>>>>>>>> Ubuntu,>>>>>>>> >>>> they are provided by a package pair with name format>>>>>>>> like>>>>>>>> >>>> linux-headers-2.6.22-14>>>>>>>> linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic>>>>>>>> >>>> with 2.6.22-14-generic being the boot kernel version>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> All the files headers I found in my sistem are>>>>>>>> 2.6.24....>>>>>>>> >>>> But I have follow the instructions of the file and>>>>>>>> everythng>>>>>>>> goes>>>>>>>> >> right.>>>>>>>> >>>> Please help me cause I need to send fax with>>>>>>>> eFax-gtk.>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> --- El mar 3-jun-08, Marvin Stodolsky>>>>>>>> >> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >>> escribió:>>>>>>>> >>>> De: Marvin Stodolsky>>>>>>>> <marvin.stodolsky@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >>>> Asunto: Re: Yefer Barandica López, Colombia kernel>>>>>>>> 2.6.24-17-generic>>>>>>>> >>>> A: "yefer barandica">>>>>>>> >>> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>, "Jacques>>>>>>>> >>> Goldberg">>>>>>>> >>>> <Jacques.Goldberg@xxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >>>> Fecha: martes, 3 junio, 2008, 2:07 pm>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Yefer>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> AGRSM - At>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/sv92/ ,>>>>>>>> >>>> the agrsm-20080203.tar.gz>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Under Linux unpack with:>>>>>>>> >>>> $ tar zxf agr*.tar.gz>>>>>>>> >>>> Read the files therein and the attached>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> jacques>>>>>>>> >>>> put the agrsm_howto.txt into the>>>>>>>> >>>> folder>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/sv92/>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> MarvS>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> MarvS>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:53 PM, yefer barandica>>>>>>>> >> <yeferbar@xxxxxxxxx>>>>>>>>> >>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> ________________________________>>>>>>>> >>>>> Yahoo! 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