Re: to pitch or not to pitch, IETF attendance costs

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On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 05:53:23PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
> On 5/15/19 5:34 PM, Nico Williams wrote:
> > > 3) reduce presentations from costly in-person meetings
> > +1 (Except, again, for BoFs, because they are very much about marketing
> >      new work, and they can't be expected to have a virtual interim.
> 
> I was wondering if similar virtual interim meetings, except associated with
> an area instead of a WG, could replace BOFs entirely.

Maybe, but having been involved in creating two WGs, one of which had a
contentious BoF, I do feel that the energy of the crowd is helpful.

I would be OK with having a virtual BoF as something of an inception
review, specifically so directorates could provide early inception
review.  But losing physical BoFs altogether strikes me as a loss, not a
win.

> If a virtual interim meeting is not adequate to "market new work", (I assume
> you mean it's not sufficiently visible for such a purpose), maybe we should
> figure out how to make interim meetings more visible.   I'm starting to get
> the impression that "interim" meetings are the future of IETF.

As long as we don't end up with basic IETF participation becoming a
full-time job description.

Nico
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