On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 05:53:23PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote: > On 5/15/19 5:34 PM, Nico Williams wrote: > > > 3) reduce presentations from costly in-person meetings > > +1 (Except, again, for BoFs, because they are very much about marketing > > new work, and they can't be expected to have a virtual interim. > > I was wondering if similar virtual interim meetings, except associated with > an area instead of a WG, could replace BOFs entirely. Maybe, but having been involved in creating two WGs, one of which had a contentious BoF, I do feel that the energy of the crowd is helpful. I would be OK with having a virtual BoF as something of an inception review, specifically so directorates could provide early inception review. But losing physical BoFs altogether strikes me as a loss, not a win. > If a virtual interim meeting is not adequate to "market new work", (I assume > you mean it's not sufficiently visible for such a purpose), maybe we should > figure out how to make interim meetings more visible. I'm starting to get > the impression that "interim" meetings are the future of IETF. As long as we don't end up with basic IETF participation becoming a full-time job description. Nico --