Sorry empty email...response below [MB].
Mary.
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Mary B <mary.h.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
[MB] The issue was addressed satisfactorily once Alissa got in the loop. And, in the end, you all did the right thing. But, initially, there was very polite pushback that the issue was just me... And, one of the WG chairs made a snarky comment at the next meeting about having to change the slide (I'd have to dig through recordings to find it exactly). I don't think you were on the entire thread at all as it pre-dates you as an AD which is whom I raised the issue with. On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Adam Roach <adam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:On 3/2/18 1:08 PM, Mary B wrote:
I am getting a better sense of the problem you're trying to solve as indeed there have been many times that I've told someone to stop doing something and gotten that exact response (i.e., no one else has that problem, so why does it bother you?). That actually came up a WG that had a presentation with what I considered an inappropriate picture that I think you're familiar with. So, bringing it to this level, your point does resonate.
To me this is just solving the tiniest sliver of a larger problem that I thought was the intent of this whole anti-harassment ombudsperson setup. Of course, having used the process and gotten unsatisfactory results and basically been told by the ombudsperson that to avoid the situation in the future, I should adjust my behavior, I get the issue.
I feel sad that you don't think your concerns were addressed in the situation you're referring to. I don't know anything about your interaction with the ombudsteam, but I was personally involved in making certain the chairs and presenter were made aware of your concern, and all involved parties indicated that they would be careful to prevent any similar situations arising in the future.
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Just to be clear, if this policy keeps someone from feeling intimidated (and apparently there have been real situations where this has been a problem which I had not been aware of), then I guess that's a good thing. But, it still is putting the burden on the victim and not on those whose behavior is offensive.
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