--On Thursday, September 28, 2017 09:57 +0100 "tom p." <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The obvious one, which disrupts my work, is the Date Created. > FTP gives me date which is, or is close to, the creation date > of the RFC by the RFC Editor. > > Internet Explorer makes the Date Created the date on which I > perform the download, which may be years later and so > thoroughly misleading (to me). > > So standalone FTP every time. Because FTP, by design, has a command in the protocol to transmit a data type (primitive version of content type) and a canonical form for text on the wire, competent implementations are also capable of delivering files with EOL conventions, and even character encodings, appropriate to the receiving environment. We learned lessons a _very_ long time ago from EBCDIC and two (or, depending on how you count, at least four) different encoding forms for ASCII that lead to that feature and the TYPE command. Perhaps unfortunately from where we stand today, the community effectively decided to discard that feature, with a number of client implementations deciding that binary transfers (in FTP-speak, TYPE I) were enough that that receiving systems should just get exact copies of whatever the sending system had and sort it out themselves, in the process ignoring the FTP requirement [RFC959, Section 4.1.2, "Representation Type"] that the default in TYPE is not specified is ASCII non-print. While TFTP [RFC1350] has a similar feature ("netascii" mode), AFAIK, other FTP alternatives for transferring data under different conditions, including SFTP over SSH and Rsync, simply assume image copies are fine. Trying to transfer files containing non-ASCII characters makes the problem worse because, while the spec isn't explicit about it, an FTP implementation should presumably fail if TYPE A is used and the contents of the data file cannot be interpreted as ASCII. Attempts to add a "TYPE U" (for "Unicode" or "UTF-8") to FTP to solve that problem for another canonical text representation have gotten absolutely no problem, leading me to presume that the community has completely lost interest in these issues. Someone who believed in the existence of character coding and transmission deities and divine retribution from them might conclude that the community deserves this BOM mess, along with UTF-16 on the wire, as a result of not dealing with the issue effectively in FTP, TFTP, and a variety of other transfer measures. I couldn't possibly comment on that. john