Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > The general point is that the new people whom we want > to draw in as productive participants will be watching how we treat > each other and deciding whether they want to wade into that pool. It's not just new people watching and being turned off. There are plenty of old timers who get turned off and I doubt I'm alone in thinking very carefully these days whether I want to wade into any particular discussion. Thomas