> Unfortunately 87all@xxxxxxxx --the "announce" version of the > list-- is where the really important things, like schedule > changes, show up. And, at least as far as I can tell, there is > no way for a non-registrant to get on that list. Has anyone tried to subscribe on the listinfo page?: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/87all I just did, using another email address, and that email address got the normal "click here to confirm" response. Barry